发表于 2011-1-17 10:18:49

关于Blackstar是否全管的翻译

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以下是事实陈述:

"There has been a lively discussion in some forums about whether or not the Blackstar HT-5 is a hybrid amp since it has op-amps (solid state components) in the signal chain.
在一些论坛里关于Blackstar HT-5在信号处理中有一个OP放大电路功放(晶体管元件)而热议它是否是一个混合电路功放。

First of all, in my experience, a hybrid amp is one with a solid state preamp that provides some clipping with a tube power section. Many Peavey amps were made like this including the 160W, ear splitting, Marshall squashing Peavey Mace and the Peavey Heritage VTX series. Those amps had some great tone and were extremely loud. Certainly, too loud for most musicians but we loved them and the Marshall stacks in our bedrooms anyway when I was a kid. (Our neighbors and parents didn't though, but that was part of the fun.)
首先,以我的经验,我认为混合电路功放是以一个晶体管前级提供一个削波(失真)信号再由电子管后即进行放大。许多Peavey的音箱都是这种做法,包括160w功率爆裂的Marshall,以及颗粒感极强犹如碾碎音色的Peavey Mace 和Peavey Heritage VTX系列 音箱。那些音箱拥有出色的声音而且音量很大。当然,对于大多数音乐人来说确实是太吵了,当你把这些箱子放在你的卧室里操练,尤其是我还是孩子的时候。(我们的邻居和家人可不这样认为,但是对于我们来说那也是一种乐趣)


So, is the Blackstar a hybrid? I say it isn't in the "traditional" sense. Yes, the Blackstar does have some solid state components (op-amps) in the signal path. However, the solid state components DO NOT PROVIDE ANY CLIPPING. All signal clipping done by the Blackstar HT5 is done in the tube section and most of that is done in the preamp tube section.
言归正传,那么Blackstar是一个混合电路的音箱吗?我的回答是:不!不是一个传统意义上的混合电路音箱。当然Blackstar的信号通道中确有部分晶体管元件(OP放大电路)。但是这个晶体管元件并不制造一个削波(失真)信号。所有的信号都是通过Blackstar HT5的电子管部分制造的,而且绝大部分削波(失真)信号都是在前级电子管电路里完成的。

I contacted Blackstar and corresponded with an engineer and he assured me that all clipping of the signal in the Blackstar HT-5 is only done in the tube section of the amp. So, while op-amps do amplify the signal to an extent, the clipping and most of the amplification is done through the tube section. So, while some SS components are in the signal path the amp doesn't do any clipping through it. That is a strong point, IMO. The Blackstar doesn't have a SS gain type of tone. It sounds like what it is: a tube amp with a tube preamp clipping the signal.
我同Blackstar联系并同工程师进行了沟通,他明确的回答我,所有的削波都是在Blackstar HT-5的电子管部分完成的。OP放大电路确实是将信号放大到一定的广度,但是削波信号和功率放大都是在电子管部分完成的。所以,晶体管元件在信号处理过程中比不产生削波。在我看来,这个证据是强有力的。Blackstar并没有一个晶体管增益电路,它的声音就犹如它自身的特性,电子管前级制造的削波信号并由电子管后级放大。

I'll bet many people have solid state components in their signal chain while using the Rebel, Mesa's, Marshalls, etc. As soon as you connect a compressor, a clean boost, a chorus, an EQ, or just about any pedal made today, you have solid state components in the signal path. If you use an OD pedal, you have solid state components (diodes or transistors, etc.) clipping the signal that's being amplified by your "all tube" amp.
我敢打赌很多人都用到信号经晶体管元件处理的电子管功放,包括Rebel(Egnater), Mesa, Marshall,等等。当你用一个压缩,原琴激励,合唱,均衡,或者任何现在生产的单块效果器,在你的信号链里都一个晶体管元件处理过的部分。如果你用一个过载单块,你会有一个晶体管元件(二极管或晶体管)处理过的削波信号,然后再有你的“全电子管”功放进行放大。

Either way, the Blackstar doesn't clip the signal in the solid state components. All clipping is done by the tubes (mainly the preamp tube).
Blackstar所采用的方法如出一辙,它并不在晶体管元件里进行削波信号处理,所有的的削波都产生于电子管(主要是在前级电子管部分)

I corresponded with a Blackstar engineer about the circuitry inside the amp. One thing I was told, and he was very stubborn about it, was how clipping is done in the amp. Here is a quote from one of the emails about it.
在于Blackstar的工程师沟通的过程中,我获知失真是如何制作处理的(他很坚持他的理念)。以下是部分邮件内容:

"The HT-5 preamplifier is based on the HT-Dual pedal. As is the case in the HT-Dual, we use solid-state circuits to provide "pre-gain" before the ECC83 valve. The diodes are part of this "pre-gain circuit" and are used to limit the signal level being driven into the valve and hence maintain the correct operating conditions for the valve in this application.
“HT-5前级放大是基于HT-Dual单块效果器的。在HT-Dual里面,我们用镜头管电路在ECC83电子管前面提供一个前置增益。这个二极管是前置增益电路的一部分,它的作用是限制输入到电子管里的信号电平,并在这样的作用里保持这种信号状态。”

Most importantly, the valve is the last amplification (and clipping) device in the signal chain and the overall gain structure is designed such that the compression and harmonics you hear are generated solely from the valve itself."
最重要的是,电子管是信号处理链条中最终的放大部分(削波信号),所有的增益信号处理构成使得你能听到的所有谐波和压缩都是由电子管本身来制造的。

87176146 发表于 2011-1-17 10:25:46

“我同Blackstar联系并同工程师进行了沟通,他明确的回答我,所有的削波都是在Blackstar HT-5的电子管部分完成的。”

gundamz2 发表于 2011-1-17 10:30:05

HT-5还有个致命缺点,和汽车排量太小一样……功率实在不适合住花园洋房的
人家一问你的箱子多少瓦呀,一听5W,一定特歧视你

funkyqueen 发表于 2011-1-17 10:33:05

住花园洋房的可以买ht200箱头,马上让你别墅变平房。

funkyqueen 发表于 2011-1-17 11:48:25

ht5要是换后极管的话是必须换它的12bh7的双三极管吗?

paullee 发表于 2011-1-17 11:51:54

esry 发表于 2011-1-17 15:27:03

我就看看我 不说话

伊格尼斯 发表于 2011-1-17 23:58:53

原帖由 gundamz2 于 2011-1-17 10:30 发表 http://bbs.guitarschina.com/images/common/back.gif
HT-5还有个致命缺点,和汽车排量太小一样……功率实在不适合住花园洋房的
人家一问你的箱子多少瓦呀,一听5W,一定特歧视你
遇多了 这破5W。。。。

来我家听过的不说。。。那些没来我家听的   老怀疑5W能干啥么

我很纠结。。我很无奈。,。。我鸭梨很大。。我很空虚。。寂寞。。。冷。。。

住花园洋房的用HT5不错啊。。我家能全开满的说(一天来那么几次还行)

oni2pp 发表于 2011-1-25 17:13:02

音色喜欢就行啦管他什么管
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