paullee 发表于 2013-7-10 12:40:10

谁能给讲讲GIBSON,std, traditional, plus, pro,这都嘛意思?

如题,麻烦给讲讲,区别?还有年份啊,价格啊什么的

糯米馅儿大肉包 发表于 2013-7-10 15:40:19

gibson啊...

貌似最便宜的是studio

然后就是standard了

贵的是custom

求各种更正与补充....

破灭 发表于 2013-7-10 15:46:08

5000多个帖子的老鸟,楼主不会是来消遣我们的吧

a8111871 发表于 2013-7-10 16:09:06

老鸟消遣+1

useyourillsions 发表于 2013-7-10 16:26:10

网上查到的,希望对lz有帮助
std =ShiTiDian 就是实体店的意思,表示是实体店专门出售的gibson。

traditional就是传统的 gibson

plus就是“买一加一”,类似于开盖再来一瓶,这种gibsonl买一把送一把的意思。

pro 音译就是“破”的意思,英译“贫穷的”是最低端的Gibson,面向那些买不起gibson的穷人。

jay2538016 发表于 2013-7-10 16:41:46

回复 5楼 useyourillsions 的帖子

哈哈,原来如此,又学到新姿势了

paullee 发表于 2013-7-10 20:19:53

我是真不太清楚,而且有点懒。。。
我就是06年买了一个SG FADED后就再没研究过这些。。。
一直对部分效果器和音箱比较感兴趣

希望朋友们给介绍一下

琴弦之家 发表于 2013-7-10 21:06:27

原帖由 useyourillsions 于 2013-7-10 16:26 发表
网上查到的,希望对lz有帮助
std =ShiTiDian 就是实体店的意思,表示是实体店专门出售的gibson。

traditional就是传统的 gibson

plus就是“买一加一”,类似于开盖再来一瓶,这种gibsonl买一把送一把的意思 ...

vector 发表于 2013-7-10 22:06:58

原帖由 useyourillsions 于 2013-7-10 16:26 发表
网上查到的,希望对lz有帮助
std =ShiTiDian 就是实体店的意思,表示是实体店专门出售的gibson。

traditional就是传统的 gibson

plus就是“买一加一”,类似于开盖再来一瓶,这种gibsonl买一把送一把的意思 ...

更正一下 std=ShuangTongDao 就是双通道的意思,表示自身带清音和失真两路输出的gibson。

drxu 发表于 2013-7-10 22:10:26

围观老鸟被消遣。。。。。。。。

爬山虎玛雅 发表于 2013-7-11 09:03:04

原帖由 useyourillsions 于 2013-7-10 16:26 发表
网上查到的,希望对lz有帮助
std =ShiTiDian 就是实体店的意思,表示是实体店专门出售的gibson。

traditional就是传统的 gibson

plus就是“买一加一”,类似于开盖再来一瓶,这种gibsonl买一把送一把的意思 ...

太好玩了~~~哈哈~~~厉害厉害!~~~

乱武毒士贾文和 发表于 2013-7-11 09:18:44

原帖由 paullee 于 2013-7-10 20:19 发表
我是真不太清楚,而且有点懒。。。
我就是06年买了一个SG FADED后就再没研究过这些。。。
一直对部分效果器和音箱比较感兴趣

希望朋友们给介绍一下
看来你是真不知道,我给你解释解释吧,我也懂得不多,欢迎大家补充更正
07年standard就翻天覆地了,08款standard腔体减重,就是琴体都挖空了,琴颈不对称设计,一边厚一边薄,用BB PRO的拾音器,功率大了,后来2012款也是减重款,叫现代减重,没有以前减的那么厉害,traditional是用57拾音器,在琴身打9个洞稍微减重一下,比较传统,2013款traditional已经不减重了,传统的50,60琴颈

TJLJQ 发表于 2013-7-11 10:15:40

原来如此

paullee 发表于 2013-7-13 22:30:51

Rather than keep sending people to Gibson Forums, I figured I'd post this here. Maybe with some luck, this will become a sticky.
This post mainly applies to newer Les Pauls. Nowadays, there are two types of Les Pauls - Gibson USA and Gibson Custom Shop.

Gibson USA
Weight-relief started around 1982/1983. Every Gibson USA Les Paul between 1982 - 2007 is weight-relieved. They do not have solid-body construction. Weight-relief is also known as "swiss cheese holes" and refers to the nine holes drilled out of the body in order to reduce the weight of the guitar.

Chambering officially began for 2007 but the late 2006s are also chambered. Any Les Paul made after October 2006 maybe or likely is chambered. Every 2007 and newer Gibson USA Les Paul is chambered, except for the Les Paul Traditional. The Les Paul Traditional has swiss cheese holes. Chambering is essentially hollowing out the body. Again, this is in order to reduce the weight of the guitar.

Gibson Custom Shop
Gibson's Custom Shop makes regular production guitars and historic reissues. The regular production guitars, such as the Les Paul Custom, are also weight-relieved. They do not have solid-bodies.

The historic reissues are solid. All historic reissues, be it Standards or Customs, are solid. The exception being the chambered reissues. Chambered reissues are often referred to as Cloud 9 guitars. They are identified by their serial number, which begins with CR. chambered-reissue.org

So,

A 2003 Les Paul Classic is weight-relieved
A 2008 '57 reissue is solid
A 1995 Les Paul Standard is weight-relieved
A 2009 Chambered '58 reissue is chambered
A 2008 Les Paul Studio is chambered
A 1987 Les Paul Custom is weight-relieved
etc.

If you put on your x-ray goggles, this is what a chambered Les Paul would look like:


This is what a weight-relieved Les Paul would look like:



Neck tenons


Some Les Pauls have long neck tenon, while others do not.

Short: Standards (before the 2008 "new" Standard), Customs, Studios Classics.
Long: Historic reissues, 2008 Standards.

Norlin
Gibson guitars made between 1968 - 1986. Great info right here. FAQ: Norlin History
Any Norlin related items/questions should be posted here. Norlin Years - My Les Paul Forums

Historic Reissues
R2 = reissue of the 1952 Gibson Les Paul
R9 = reissue of the 1959 Gibson Les Paul
CR8 = chambered reissue of the '58 Gibson Les Paul
There is no R3 or R5.

Historic Customs are often referred to as B4, B7, R4BB or R7BB. BB meaning Black Beauty.

Gibson's VOS - Vintage Original Spec line. The terms VOS, historic, reissue & historic reissue all refer to the same guitar. There is only one difference, VOS refers to the aged finish on the top and hardware. The ones that do not have the VOS finish are referred to as "gloss" or "high gloss" reissues because (obviously) they have a high gloss finish. Websites like Guitar Center list the two guitars as VOS and "reissue." Reissue refers to the high gloss. I think this has caused some confusion with some people but rest assured, they are all the same guitar. Again, one looks brand new and the other does not look brand new - that's the only difference. VOS costs $300 less.

Any historic Les Pauls related items/questions should be posted here. Historics & Reissues - My Les Paul Forums

Historic Customs
Standards have mahogany bodies and maple tops. Historic Customs have mahogany bodies and mahogany tops (while modern/regular Customs have maple tops). The Custom will likely weight around a pound heavier but that's about it for differences.

1968 Reissue
Another reissue that never seems to be on gibson.com is the '68RI. These are the same as the B7s, only difference is they have maple tops, different pickups and Gibson USA electronics.

R8 vs. R9
This question gets asked a lot !!
They are the same guitar. All reissues are essentially the same guitar with minor differences. These differences are neck thicknesses, pickups, weight of each individual guitar, finishes & tops. The best way to get an understanding of the neck sizes is to actually play them. Me explaining that R8s have thicker necks than R9s and R7s have thicker necks than R8s doesn't mean jack unless you sit down with the guitar and see for yourself.

R9s list for $1,500 - $2,000 more than R8s. Why? The answer is because R9s have flame maple tops and the R9 should weigh less than the R8. That's it.
Here's a great pic taken from inside Gibson's Custom Shop


Please feel free to correct any mistakes I have made and also add any info you want but let's try and keep this thread educational.

乱武毒士贾文和 发表于 2013-7-13 23:13:46

写的很详细,gibson公司给你的邮件么?里边很多地方我以前都不知道呢,谢谢楼主

paullee 发表于 2014-10-20 12:57:16

你们就笑吧,虽然我还是不太懂,但已经入手R7 AGED,哈哈哈哈

大头汽车 发表于 2017-10-26 01:42:47

useyourillsions 发表于 2013-7-10 16:26
网上查到的,希望对lz有帮助
std =ShiTiDian 就是实体店的意思,表示是实体店专门出售的gibson。



还真说错 plus 了。和iPhone一样是大尺寸,我估计放在吉他上,估计体积和大提琴一样。

rocklv88 发表于 2017-10-26 11:57:41

paullee 发表于 2013-7-13 22:30
Rather than keep sending people to Gibson Forums, I figured I'd post this here. Maybe with some luck ...

能翻译下吗?
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