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【触弦】触弦线上古典吉他比赛成绩公布!

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关于触弦线上古典吉他比赛:http://bbs.guitarschina.com/thread-1979087-1-1.html

写在结果公布之前:

     触弦是一个年轻的团队,组织这次比赛,可以说是一路磕磕绊绊,但总算是平安着落,今天,终于收官,走到比赛的最后一步了。想告诉大家比赛结果不重要,过程才重要,但其实这只是自欺欺人罢了,有比赛,就有输赢,有输赢,就有几家欢喜几家愁,所以,我们不妨反过来想,比赛结果很重要,它反映了你的真实水平,如果你夺得名次,那么你将承受巨大的压力,因为你随时会被超过,如果你的成绩并不理想,甚至跟你的预期所差甚大,那么你需要更加努力,因为在你前面的,还有那么多比你更优秀,更有天赋的人,所以,结果很重要,它告诉了你你还欠缺什么,你需要什么,我们希望这次比赛不是结束,而是开始,因为,我们会每年把它办下去,也希望支持比赛的你们,能够继续跟触弦一起成长下去。
     从第一次参加比赛到第一次组织比赛,我用了三年的时间,但是真正做了一次比赛之后,才发现原来一次比赛有这么多方方面面需要考虑,一个人的力量是渺小的,这次比赛对于我,对于触弦来说,更像是一次尝试。在民谣的领域,线上比赛已经有很多,这也给我们提供了不少宝贵的参考,举办这样的比赛,成本相对于线下比赛,无论是执行成本还是参与成本都低了很多很多,让我们能把资金全部用在在辛勤付出的参赛者身上,他们是最伟大的,是我们共同喜欢的行业的中坚力量。
     与传统的比赛不同,这次比赛中,有几位爱好者因为精彩的表现和创意进入了决赛,想必同专业选手们同台竞技,会是一次奇妙的体验,对于这些爱好者们,过程应该比结果更加重要,我们专门跟评委们交流,希望他们一视同仁,以最专业的眼光审视所有选手,所以,这些爱好者们的分数可能不会很漂亮,但是,我们希望你们能够看到,你们跟最专业的选手的差距也并非很巨大,你们精彩的诠释了--热爱是最好的老师!

选手决赛视频:http://bbs.guitarschina.com/foru ... ;page=1#pid26962334

古典吉他比赛成绩:

按照比赛规定,选手最终得分即五位评委评分中,去掉最高和最低,剩下三个分数的平均分为选手最终得分。


第一名:王天戈 最终得分:93.33,10000元奖金+价值41000元戈多伊Ⅲ一年使用权
第二名:余耀智 最终得分:90.67,5000元奖金+价值16300元玛丁尼DF69一年使用权
第三名:刘声豪 最终得分:90.33,3000元奖金+价值11800元玛丁尼豪瑟型号一年使用权
第四名:陈思琦 最终得分:78 ,500元触弦店铺代金券
第五名:乔丹 最终得分:76.67,500元触弦店铺代金券
第六名:吴必君 最终得分:76 ,500元触弦店铺代金券

最佳人气奖:刘声豪 奖金1000元
根据比赛规则,线上盖楼活动被支持最多的决赛选手是我们今年的线上人气王,今年获得这一奖励的是A0017,刘声豪。


每个评委给每一位决赛选手评分外,给每个人写了详细的评价和建议,希望对参赛选手有帮助。
各个评委打分情况:

王右:
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Number:
A0004 grade: 87
轮指不均匀,低声部线条不明显,主次声部分的不明显导致没有层次

A0006 grade: 93
过于追求速度导致质量有所下降,失误过于多,可以慢练并注重细节

A0008 grade: 90
发挥稳定,音乐起伏有些过于平稳导致音乐性有些缺失,可以多注重音乐表达,而不是是否失误

A0017 grade: 96
曲目选择很有难度并且发挥稳定,音乐表达到位

A0018 grade: 80
曲目简单,技术与音乐表现需要在提高

A0020 grade: 95
技巧与音乐性匹配,曲目诠释到位

A0021 grade: 89
音乐单调,四个乐章风格差异不明显,可以尝试不同的演奏与音乐风格,音乐会变得有趣的多

A0023 grade: 91
声部 分的不明显,没有主次,圆滑音节奏不均匀

A0025 grade: 80
技巧与音乐理解需在提高

A0027 grade: 84
技巧需在提高,轮指不均匀,曲目改编有创意且新颖

A0029 grade: 83
建议可以多弹一些有趣的小曲子,更能够理解音乐,随着年龄增长,在慢慢接触大曲子,这样能够理解的更透彻


Oegmundur Thor Johannes:
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Oegmundur给每一位选手详细的写了他的建议和评价:
A0004 - 70 barrios sueno de la floresta legato a bit missing in the lines.. a bit scratchy sound… too much swing rhythm in one part, and timing! the tremolo with a bit fast a-m-i against the p. scale could have been a bit more impressive, arpeggios a bit irregular… but the dress and video very nice, so the musical intension and direction also very nice

A0006 - 75 tres piezas espanyolas (4 runner up) Fandango - sound in RH may be better defined, and more smooth. Could also be partly the sound quality in the video to blame, and/or guitar and strings. Too harsh at times! Some passages a bit unclear from the beginning, articulation? should maybe be all staccato in theme? Take care with breaking the sound in chords and in the bass. Agile finger work in the triplets… but too many unclear notes… Passacaglia - take care with accents and unclear notes Zapateado - very nice agility and finger work! very nice bass scale in end!

A0008 - 67 sonata eroica wrong notes in chord in beginning, take care with rhythm in intro section. Chords are generally a bit sloppy, and not well enough balanced and compact RH! To harsh sound. Take care with rhythm in dotted notes. Take care with thumb scraping the bass strings - angle of thumb. Also take care with general articulation! Take care with tempo relation between parts! general accuracy, pity with the scales in the recapitulation, good musical intention though in some parts

A0017 - 93 tres piezas españolas I II / Tarrega carnaval of venice fandango - very nice articulation and agogic! agile nice scales and ligados. Passacaglia, very nice bass sound in theme, and following chords (y) generally well built and nice contrasts, middle lines could have come better out articulation in the end, tempo control? tarrega, nice intro and quite well shaped theme, appogituras may be a bit more exaggerated though. Couple of wrong notes. Variations quite good, but could be more reflecting the opera buffa style, but nevertheless virtuosic and quite clean! well towards the end

A0018 - 73 sor moonlight etude / sor etude? / ? sor - a bit harsh accents and a little bit square interpretation, could be a bit more wavy and flowing, phrase endings good though. A bit easy repertoire choice, comparing to the others? ? nice resonance and atmosphere, and quite good sound!

A0020 - 97 - aguado rondo no. 1 sound quite good, shaping of the intro and phrasing very good. Theme is beautiful, excellently played, with good articulation and phrasing and sound! In some corners the sound is a little bit “eaten”.wrong notes before the development section, and couple of wrong notes. in general, a very tough piece performed with quite a lot of ease = very good virtuosity the mozartian part was beautiful, well expressed harmonies :) coda a little soft in the rhythm, but could also be an idea! In general beautiful phrasing, sound and rendering of this tough piece.

A0021 - 74 koyunbaba quite nice atmosphere in I beginning, second half a little bit flat. A bit easy repertoire choice, compared with the other competitors. Quite good improvisative groove in parts II and III . IV is a bit weaker.

A0023 - 95 BWV 1003 / Leo sonata II III IV very good general flow and phrasing! Crisp and solid sound! Very good articulation, and f p contrast, could be more in the b part beginning. take care with wrong resonance RH from bass, wrong note. Couple of harmonies in basso continuo strange in second part. Crisp and clean performance, and articulate, some wrong notes towards the middle/ second half of b part. Revise basso continuo. Second repetition was better. Leo - II Á EFTIR AÐ KLÁRA III - very nice organic phrasing, and beautiful rendering of arpeggios in the
Leo - II Á EFTIR AÐ KLÁRA III - very nice organic phrasing, and beautiful rendering of arpeggios in the reprise section.

A0025 - 68 very interesting and nice transcription of.. Chinese folk song? Very good rendering, RH sound may be more round and compact for many places

A0027 - 74 very interesting transcription. Frankly, it is very difficult to compare the sound quality to the other guitarists with amplified frame guitar, and transmitted through video :) nevertheless is very convincing, and many technical effects and showcase

A0028 - 70 Giuliani op. 15 RH may develop more, and more articulation in some places, with the phrasing a bit more round. Too many stops. However, nice developments and directions in some of the big phrases, and great work for such young age, thumbs up for that! Interesting interpretation in the development section.


Guy Traviss:
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Guy给每一位选手详细的写了他的建议和评价:
编号:A0004
75%
Some problems joining the phrases together on occasions, but some really nice sounding passages and good tone,


编号:A0006
65%
This player has accomplished many difficult techniques in his playing. However, the execution doesn’t always remain clean.


编号:A0008
75%
Very similar player to Wu Bi Jun: some phrasing problems but on the whole a very good guitar player.


编号:A00017
90%
Really very good control, and technique.


编号:A00018
60%
This is a difficult player to give a mark to. The repertoire he has chosen for this competition isn’t really difficult enough on a technical level to compete with the other entrants. However, he shows real signs of good musicality; would like to see him attempt some more technically-challenging repertoire.


编号:A0020
95%
This is a very promising young player. Phrasing and articulation is surprising mature and well thought out.


编号:A00021
80%
Some areas where the control of technique could be better, however, I really like her understanding of this piece.


编号:A00023
93%
Superb technique and control. Sometimes could use more personal musicality in his playing.


编号:A00025
65%


编号:A00027
60%
The audio and video are not quite in sync. I also has some changes in camera angle. Did he know it was meant to be a live performance?


编号:A00029
65%
With some right-hand development, I think this player will have a very promising future.


Nutavut Ratanakarn:
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Nutavut给每一位选手写了他的建议和评价:
VDO : A0004
Mark : 78
Comment : He must need more understand music in romantic style the all time he lose legato and rubato so is very important of barrios music Technic he have problem with tremolo his finger power not independence need practice focus about tremolo technic

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VDO : A0006
Mark : 72
Comment : He much more improve in music understand in passage and style Technic can play more slow for control clean and clear

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VDO : A0008
Mark : 80
Comment : He much think more in all massage of this music in small passage listen more mozart style Technic much more make clean sound in all rest note is to much noise sound

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VDO : A0017
Mark : 88
Comment : In rodrigo mush concern in accent of his style much move foward in Canival of venice more play like romatic style need listen more like chopin style

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VDO : A0018
Mark : 58
Comment : need more music style and passage Technic practice more and more he have good tone.

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VDO : A0020
Mark : 89
Comment : must clear with accom and melody i fast movement he lost all passage and direction of music Technic good!

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VDO : A0021
Mark : 70
Comment : focus direction of music and style need improve more power of left hand and good quality of right hand

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VDO : A0023
Mark : 85
Comment : Bach must clean short passage and direction many developement he lost the tempo the technic he must listen more clean sound with rest note is to much noise

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VDO : A0025
Mark : 62
Comment : in tarrega he lost many note and play without music passage technic he must improve sound quality

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VDO : A0027
Mark : 55
Comment : Tremolo more improve for very clear

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VDO : A0029
Mark : 60
Comment : improve more music style and passage technic make more clear and clear and good tone

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Best Regard

Nutavut Ratanakarn

Address : 33/79 Soi Naknovad 22, Naknivad Rd, Ladpraw, Bangkok 10230 Thailand


Johannes Moller:
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Moller给每一位选手写了他的建议和评价:
编号:A0004
75
A good tone, but lack of direction in phrasing.

A0006
65
Although on a good way and with good promise, there are many things to over come.

A0008
75
Good playing from a promising talent. To score higher more attention to detail is needed.

A00017
88
Showcased some very high level playing.


A00018
60
Beautiful playing, but his level is limited at the moment. Althoug not quite up to the level of this competition he should not be discorraged, and I am looking forward to see him excell in the future.

A0020:
90
An exellent young guitarist with a bright future!

A00021
80
very good playing, getting close to higher levels.

A00023
88
Close to a perfect execution of the music which is very difficult.

A00025
68
Although this player has lots to overcome, there are many promising sides.

A00027
60
This video looks as if has been edited, plus the use of a non acustic guitar makes hard to evaluate.

A00029
64
A promising player that I hope will continue to develop.

写在结尾:
     比赛终于告一段落了,狂欢节也落下帷幕。在今年,作为首届狂欢节,首届线上大赛,我们做的还远不够好,许多细节还亟待我们在未来完善。是的,我们有信心继续下去!有第二届、第三届…..如果可以,我们希望一直把活动做下去,也希望更多的人,能从中得到乐趣,得到力量,我们之所以把活动命名为"狂欢节”,是希望每一个人都能参与,都能有所斩获,音乐是一件快乐的事情,是一辈子的事情,也是每个人的事情,它也许无法带给你财富和地位,但却能帮助你找到内心的平静,所以明年,触弦将更加努力的带给大家“每个人”都能参与的活动。真诚感谢玛丁尼对此次活动的大力支持,玛丁尼的小伙伴儿亦一直身怀推动中国古典吉他发展的情结,关注更关怀行业发展,是我们此次活动最坚定的战友!

     既然这么多英文,我也试试: thank you all the way on our way to dream !

感谢吉他中国论坛的支持!
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买琴买鼓,就找魔菇
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湍河人4 发表于 2015-10-11 19:11
湍河人超神为什么有这等自信,当你有颠覆性的技法时就有这样的感觉,湍河人超神之前随手上传的东西就已经证 ...

非常支持您的观点我觉得我们广大业余爱好者不要死磕那些高难度的东西,要把精力放在尽情抒怀流畅优美的演奏上(利用常用的和弦基础),不要只听到那些让人难懂的断断续续的叮叮咣咣的声音,我们要尽量弹出吸引人的通俗的曲子,这应该是很有利于古典吉他通俗化的,便于大力推广

让那些专业的人士去死磕那些高深的东西(曲高和寡,推广古典吉他这件好乐器,不能指望那些)。

古典吉他是一件很好的乐器,大众推广还需要我等爱好者的共同努力,需要大大地降低难度,大家都会,曲子好听吸引人就行,相信古典吉他会比钢琴等更受人欢迎和推广的更开的。

个人打算录制一系列的小曲(主要是歌曲),为古典吉他通俗化做点努力

纯个人见解啊,欢迎大家大大滴拍砖啊!!

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shijin9 发表于 2015-10-11 22:58
非常支持您的观点!我觉得我们广大业余爱好者不要死磕那些高难度的东西,要把精力放在尽情抒怀和流畅优美 ...

虽然史老师没有得上名次,但我非常赞赏您,因为我个人认为,音乐是表达人们的情感的,不是体育竞技,更不是杂耍看谁的花样繁多快速。史老师对古典吉他民族化,通俗化的尝试,非常好,希望史老师继续努力。加油!
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我也很喜欢史老师的演奏。  这种风格对推广古典吉他文化非常有好处。
但是古典吉他作为一件古典乐器,有它严肃的一面。

有句话说的好,艺术有权不流行。   
对于专业的古典吉他演奏家来说,曲高和寡也无所谓,毕竟学术研究还是要有人去搞的。

当然,普罗大众,只要弹我们自己喜欢的东西就行了。
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shijin9 发表于 2015-10-11 22:58
非常支持您的观点!我觉得我们广大业余爱好者不要死磕那些高难度的东西,要把精力放在尽情抒怀和流畅优美 ...

史老师已做得很好了,另外我们需知在这种比赛中,永远都是专业的选手占优的。专业的是炫技,业余的是煽情,法国吉他大师尼古拉.安捷罗斯就是煽情家,这点与业余爱好者是相通的,也是广受欢迎的原因。大众的音乐爱好者对曲子的要求就是好听,而比赛中评委们的标准则是技巧的难易再到音乐表现,至于好听不好听......
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要是有网友打分就热闹了,今后可以尝试。
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砖业和业余分开 放一起比 有什么意义
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支持分专业组和业余组,这样混在一起确实没有可比性。

湍河人超神在这里是个什么情况?刚才还特地去搜了一下,发现湍河人相关的帖子都被删内容了。是真有其人,还是只是个传说,或者真的是精神出了问题?
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学习了
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shijin9 发表于 2015-10-11 22:58
非常支持您的观点!我觉得我们广大业余爱好者不要死磕那些高难度的东西,要把精力放在尽情抒怀和流畅优美 ...

非常感谢史老师这次参加活动!
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joshuam 发表于 2015-10-12 11:06
我也很喜欢史老师的演奏。  这种风格对推广古典吉他文化非常有好处。
但是古典吉他作为一件古典乐器,有它 ...

谢谢您的支持,我觉得史老师的演奏有很强的正能量!
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弦动心动 发表于 2015-10-12 11:32
史老师已做得很好了,另外我们需知在这种比赛中,永远都是专业的选手占优的。专业的是炫技,业余的 ...

谢谢支持!此次比赛,评委们主要就是从音乐本身出发,从决赛选手视频来看,此次很多技术特别好的并没有占到便宜。史老师的演奏非常好!本次比赛我们本身也设置了达人秀其实就是来当做业余组,但也许是奖金没有这个这么高所有没有那么吸引人,以后我们会努力将业余组奖励定高。
 楼主| 发表于 2015-10-14 23:14:39 | 显示全部楼层
大风兄 发表于 2015-10-12 14:14
要是有网友打分就热闹了,今后可以尝试。

好的!我们今后会尝试!,谢谢提议,么么哒
 楼主| 发表于 2015-10-14 23:15:44 | 显示全部楼层
钱进进 发表于 2015-10-12 14:20
砖业和业余分开 放一起比 有什么意义

其实本次比赛我们本身也设置了达人秀其实就是来当做业余组,但也许是奖金没有这个这么高所有没有那么吸引人,以后我们会努力将业余组奖励定高。谢谢支持
 楼主| 发表于 2015-10-14 23:16:56 | 显示全部楼层

好的,这段奖品发完一定翻译
 楼主| 发表于 2015-10-14 23:18:35 | 显示全部楼层
发表于 2015-10-18 18:11:53 | 显示全部楼层
这活动不错,比有些网下的大赛有意思多了。演奏不错,评委点评很加分!就Nutavut的文字有点迷幻,看得云里雾里的猜也挺好玩的,哈哈
 楼主| 发表于 2015-10-22 03:25:03 | 显示全部楼层
MidNiter 发表于 2015-10-18 18:11
这活动不错,比有些网下的大赛有意思多了。演奏不错,评委点评很加分!就Nutavut的文字有点迷幻,看得云里 ...

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