九二年产马丁D1
如題，马丁D1型.92年产品 由古典到弹唱到电吉他 .至现階段又回到指弹.翻出2O多年前在通利买的D1.记得当時花了千港币左右保养得不错啊，啧啧 上弦枕换一下呗，都用纸垫着了…… 面板怎么这么脏？
前后都垫纸，楼主挺能凑合啊 中途没弹？现在还能弹吗。另外20年前1000块就能买到？ 20年前，1000块很好了，这样的琴我表示很喜欢，复古感 多谢各位捧场.因为习慣电吉他低了己弦距.弄得比较低.还有是五千港币入的. 现在论坛随便就D45.D28.网友们的起点都很高.哈哈 羨慕 楼主弹的感觉咋样啊
20年前的5千，很贵啊 97年五千港币大于5000人民币 ，以当时人民币的购买力大于现在的5万。 本帖最后由 乌木弦丁 于 2017-7-10 21:21 编辑
楼主你好！老D-1是好琴。背侧是桃花心木呢。要好好保存哦。后来的D-1的背侧是沙比利。不过，据网上资料讲老D1的侧板是合板（三合一）。不知您有没有研究过？
另，据网上资料马丁是在1993年开始做D-1. 不是92年。供参考。
乌木弦丁 发表于 2017-7-10 19:47
楼主你好！老D-1是好琴。背侧是桃花心木呢。要好好保存哦。后来的D-1的背侧是沙比利。不过，据网上资料讲老 ...
赞同，正确的解释
90年代以前的琴做工用料比现在都好很多 乌木弦丁 发表于 2017-7-10 19:47
楼主你好！老D-1是好琴。背侧是桃花心木呢。要好好保存哦。后来的D-1的背侧是沙比利。不过，据网上资料讲老 ...
早闻乌木弦丁大名对兄弟收藏的战前马丁，非常的羡慕。。
另外我的 第D1根据序号还有官网的 序号表我想应该是92年产吧
还有谢谢兄弟的提醒我一般都是降一个全音来 练习 ，现在比较珍惜她以前就把她格之高阁，，， 合唱团 发表于 2017-7-11 22:56
早闻乌木弦丁大名对兄弟收藏的战前马丁，非常的羡慕。。
另外我的 第D1根据序号还有官网的 序号表我想应 ...
合唱团兄，网上资料多说1993.也有少数说1992的。能否烦您核实一下？如您确定为1992，那么我就去改正wiki内容。多谢！ 乌木弦丁 发表于 2017-7-12 18:02
合唱团兄，网上资料多说1993.也有少数说1992的。能否烦您核实一下？如您确定为1992，那么我就去改正wiki ...
好吧我把我的吉他里面的序号拍下来请乌木弦丁兄弟帮我查证一下吧VH 图片太大，冇法上传，，序号是D1534184 本帖最后由 乌木弦丁 于 2017-7-13 07:13 编辑
合唱团 发表于 2017-7-13 03:01
图片太大，冇法上传，，序号是D1534184
非常感谢！
1992年最后一把的序列号是：522655。
1993年最后一把的序列号是：535223。
您这把是93年产的（大概是93年年底）。不需要改wiki了。您可以把您的序列号删除。 谢谢乌木弦丁兄弟，现在搞清楚啦， 本帖最后由 乌木弦丁 于 2017-7-13 08:00 编辑
合唱团 发表于 2017-7-13 07:28
谢谢乌木弦丁兄弟，现在搞清楚啦，
还是羡慕您这把老D-1，可能是全中国唯一的一把元年琴！老D-1在坛里就几乎没出现过，更别说元年琴了。新D-1和压大街的D-1GT，是沙比利背侧，不值钱。老D-1R，背侧全是合板，更不值钱。93年啥概念？我等都还不知道马丁吉他这几个字呢！您就横刀砍下D-1元年琴了，世外高人啊！哈哈
不瞒您说，这几天我正在吸老D-1的毒气，前几天海外谋购老D-1，刚刚知道原先看重的一把老D-1的琴况不满意，只能放弃，再继续找找。
真的吗， 谢谢乌木弦丁兄弟的夸奖，但她就是一把桃花心，红松面板的吉他而尔，有了弦丁兄弟说得这么夸张吗？ 有机会加个微信啊乌木弦丁兄，向你学习啊，讲真，，，， 厉害了，这种有年头的琴看着真带感！ 本帖最后由 乌木弦丁 于 2017-7-13 12:16 编辑
合唱团 发表于 2017-7-13 09:40
真的吗， 谢谢乌木弦丁兄弟的夸奖，但她就是一把桃花心，红松面板的吉他而尔，有了弦丁兄弟说得这么夸张吗 ...
D-1，面板不是红松，是Sitka云杉。马丁极少用红松做面板的。马丁历史上有过用德国云杉和英格曼云杉做过面板的，用红松的极少（钢丝弦吉他而言），我是没听说过。红松是古典吉他的面板。所以，或许马丁在极早期可能用红松做吉他，但很可能是羊肠线尼龙弦的小琴体吉他，相当于是做古典吉他了。
马丁钢弦吉他用红松做面板的，我是没听说过，即使有也应该极少吧。
另，就老-1与D-16系列相比，总体上，也是老D-1胜出。因为D-16多为沙比利面板，桃花面板的较少。坛里压大街的D-16GT虽是桃花背侧，但遗憾的是其指板和桥是合成材料，不是木头。怎么比？所以，除了较少的桃花背侧D-16之外，其他D-16系列的都没法跟老D-1比。老D-1唯一的遗憾处是合板侧板，但，这个缺陷几乎可以忽略，因为侧板对声音的影响极小，而且单板侧板较脆弱因为没有音粱结构来保护它，虽然有小撑木来保护，但遇到撞击时还是很容易裂。在1951-1952间，大G就用合板侧板来代替单板侧板，持续了较长时间。但这个时期的合板侧板的大G并不妨碍其高价。这个所谓的缺陷可以说不是啥大问题。
微信OK，你说下你的微信号？
好的，多谢乌木弦丁兄弟普及了我这把琴的这么多知识， 我的微信式 kity150 乌木弦丁兄弟如果有空就加一下吧， 本帖最后由 乌木弦丁 于 2017-7-13 22:43 编辑
合唱团 发表于 2017-7-13 21:53
乌木弦丁兄弟如果有空就加一下吧，
正在加您。
刚在网上碰到一篇文章（http://www.vintageguitar.com/1846/martin-d-1-2/ 但不那个就上不去），专业介绍老D-1的，应该是当时刚推出不久时写的。对之很推崇，有不少技术细节。
我小总结一下主要细节和亮点：
1，侧板是合板，但更坚固。
2，使用与马丁传统音粱不同的音粱系统A-Frame。音粱更轻。也是用新设计的琴颈与琴体连接的新模式，避免了一些问题的发生。
3，油漆笔多数马丁油漆要更薄。仅有纸厚。
4，是极少也适合指弹的马丁D。多数录音师玩家很少用马丁D录指弹，但D-1可以。
不用那个，在这儿看吧：
全文：
Over the years, I’ve tried to include instruments in this
column that were functional and affordable. Occasionally, we’
ve lucked out and found spectacular instruments that offer
more than your money’s worth. Some of my personal favorites
from the past include the Mesa/Boogie Mark III amp, Kramer
Pacer guitar and the Gibson L6S.
This month’s entry is a guitar I can no longer ignore. The
Martin D-1 is my favorite new acoustic, and yet I see them
priced new for $700 or less across the nation. I’ve started
seeing them used in the $600 range, and for what you get in
return, this may just be the best bargain I’ve ever written
about in this column.
Martin guitars need little introduction. In 1833, Christian
Frederick Martin left 19th-century Germany and relocated in
the hills of eastern Pennsylvania. Through the years, the
company has made dozens of models, almost completely handmade,
and hammered out a reputation that business people in any
industry could only envy. The D-1 is a new guitar, which first
appeared on the scene at the Winter NAMM show in 1993. With a
list price of $995, the folks in Nazareth were doing their
best to produce a quality made-in-America acoustic deserving
of the “since 1833” moniker. As the current catalog
illuminates, “Martin opted to utilize a two-piece solid
mahogany back, coupled with veneered mahogany sides. The
three-ply sides provide an extraordinary dimensional
stability.”
Cosmetically, it’s hard to tell the sides are not solid wood.
“Perhaps the most radical departure from most typical Martin
guitar construction is the redesign of the top bracing pattern
and neck-to-body joint area,” the catalog continues. “Unique
A-frame braces tie directly into a laminated alder neck block,
adding support to the soundhole area. The neck incorporates a
buttress extension designed specially to support the
fingerboard.”
Gibson pioneered the concept in 1960, with the Johnny Smith
jazz guitar. The idea is to have more wood beneath where the
fingerboard joins the top. Smith reasoned this would give
better sustain and fewer dead spots above the 12th fret. While
the D-1 isn’t a cutaway guitar, it does add clarity to upper
-register notes. I also suspect this diminishes the chances of
the fingerboard pulling away from the top. Martin also
stresses that “the X brace has been modified to a full square
overlap, and a unique, angled maple bridge plate minimizes
failure of this high-stress component.”
Thus, the different construction techniques are designed to
improve an already excellent design many players argue can’t
be improved upon.
Visually, this isn’t the typical Martin finish. The white
spruce top, made famous on dreadnoughts and concert 00 series
guitars, is missing, along with the shiny glossed rosewood
back and sides. The D-1 looks like a Gibson LG-0 made in
Nazareth and sized like a D-18. With the cost of a new D-18
over $2,000 (list), Martin wisely decided to opt for a less
expensive finish and still use quality materials. The D-1
looks like it’s made totally from mahogany wood and finished
with a paper-thin coat of lacquer sealer. In fact, Martin says
the D-1 uses “a special cross link finish… extremely thin,
to optimize tone.” The typical dreadnought features apply –
20 frets on an 251/2″ scale, 14 frets clear of the body, etc.
The fretwork is nice, with somewhat larger frets than the
typical Martin. Tuners are chrome-plated affairs that look
suspiciously like Schallers without really saying so. In my
experience, they are the weakest part of the guitar. While
many will find they work satisfactorily, they are also the
easiest part to replace.
We’ve looked at the cosmetics and the materials, but how does
the D-1 sound?
To my ears, fantastic! In the past two years, two students
have bought these guitars and they both have special stuff I
didn’t expect to find in a newer acoustic. I think of the D-1
as almost two separate guitars – a great fingerstyle
instrument and a very good bluegrass “battleship.” Unlike
most every D-series Martins I’ve played, the D-1 responds to
every little nuance, whether played with fingers or
fingerpicks. It seems lighter than other acoustics I’ve
played, but the D-1 is probably my favorite fingerpicking
dreadnought. If you need more guts, grab a flatpick and it’s
all there.
To be fair, the D-1 doesn’t have the bluegrass festival
volume of a good D-28 or even an average D-18. However, it
doesn’t cost anywhere near as much, and to me, the D-1 is
more versatile. Most studio players don’t record fingerstyle
parts with a dreadnought. This guitar is perhaps the only
Martin D size you could do it with and still sound convincing.
Maybe the top bracing, thinner finish or combination of woods
is responsible; whatever does it, the D-1 works.
I don’t think Martin should drop its other guitars and just
make the D-1. I don’t care for its appearance, only because I
prefer the white spruce top on the other D-series guitars.
Many of you will find the mahogany finish attractive. I also
don’t care for the tuners, but I’ve already said this can be
remedied easily, and if Martin had to cut any corners, this is
without question the place to do it. But these quibbles are
picayune, and the D-1 is one of my favorite new guitars,
regardless of price.
The best thing about this guitar is its consistency. Phil
Jones, in North Carolina, and John Jegen, in Texas, both have
D-1s I’ve played extensively, and both instruments amaze me.
This is hard to do with any instrument, but even more so with
a flat-top acoustic. If you’re looking for a new, American-
made acoustic with real tone and magic, snap up a D-1 before
Martin wises up and raises the price $500 or so. You might
find these guitars on sale new for around $700, or call one of
our VG dealers and tell ’em Riley sent you. Happy hunting,
amigos!
刚刚上网站看啦，谢谢分享，看见自己熟悉的吉他挂在网页中，还是有点小兴奋，哈哈，谢谢，竞然买了元年琴，浑然不知，，， 通利还是 蛮厚道的 当年5000块钱港币 卖给我的 本帖最后由 乌木弦丁 于 2017-7-14 14:06 编辑
合唱团 发表于 2017-7-14 06:11
通利还是 蛮厚道的 当年5000块钱港币 卖给我的
93年时，D-1售价是700美元新。600二手。
当年通利，对买家算是美帝待遇，假设利润和美国消费税抵消，在通利买琴就算是老美待遇，可能还要便宜一点呢。
现在啥通利啊，价格都大陆化了啊，哈哈
补充内容 (2017-9-16 22:21):
补充，发现国外信息，美国有的地方老D-1当时新琴1099刀，有说是900刀的。另，看到国外某管上有英国人以800英镑买了D-1（老版）。 香港回归跟大陆接轨，呵呵 弦丁兄绝对算得上是马丁吉他的活字典哈，继续关注 jeffrey624 发表于 2017-7-14 23:41
弦丁兄绝对算得上是马丁吉他的活字典哈，继续关注
这个肯定过誉了，老哥也只是随着型号兴趣，临时上网搜搜，得来的仅是个皮毛，在老美真玩家面前，啥都不是，哈哈。 乌木弦丁 发表于 2017-7-15 00:21
这个肯定过誉了，老哥也只是随着型号兴趣，临时上网搜搜，得来的仅是个皮毛，在老美真玩家面前，啥都不是 ...
还希望你继续将这点"皮毛"分享上来给我这些对琴知识连毛都不懂的人学习学习哈 乌木弦丁 发表于 2017-7-15 00:21
这个肯定过誉了，老哥也只是随着型号兴趣，临时上网搜搜，得来的仅是个皮毛，在老美真玩家面前，啥都不是 ...
实话实说 不懂是真不懂哈 无半点谦虚 马田D1，面板看上去很深色。 学习了 本帖最后由 乌木弦丁 于 2017-9-16 23:01 编辑
我刚海购拿到老D-1（1999)，中高音直接锋利清爽，低音还有些空间感，这个级别能出这样的声音，很棒。现在是老哥新宠。，不过，刚知道这琴的下弦枕材料是Micarta（一种硬塑料），美国马丁老鸟说，1975-2004年有不少马丁用的就是这个材料做的下弦枕。。另，弦丁是（软）塑料那是自然。建议，有条件换成骨质下弦枕和骨质弦丁，声音应该有不小提高。。。另，此琴的上弦枕是Corian，一种人造大理石，虽不是骨质，尚可接受，不一定需要换成骨质。
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