就为这把琴是什么型号，都已经吵疯了！！！！
某鱼上有人卖把琴，声称是2000年产Gibson LP custom shop。本人也就是路过围观，嘿真热闹！很多人质疑，有人说是好琴，也有人说就是把普通的std，反正就是喷来喷去一塌糊涂。论坛的朋友们也看看吧，这到底是把什么古怪的琴？！呵呵，好奇害死猫！ 本帖最后由 喜欢FENDER 于 2016-5-22 22:38 编辑
玩G有些年了，我感觉这琴就是普通STD换了钟盖和箱子，没啥好争辩的。 对对对，气质上到不了cs 本帖最后由 dangermanGls 于 2016-5-22 22:45 编辑
看着应该就是std, 和右边那把tra换过音量钮，弦钮一般没有换的，CS不会用那种弦钮
说不定是studio都有可能，也没有贴面 哟,终于有人GC发帖了
啥也别扯, 上编号.
八位数九位数的数字编号别特么唧唧歪歪 哈哈，都要到要看编号的地步了，坐等大神 编号才是最可靠的认证, gibson usa和custom的编号完全不一样 死丢丢没包边的 仔细看看，配件都不对，特别是桥 琴钮如果换过应该留下多余的螺丝孔，但没有，说明原装就是金属钮 mark 学习 本帖最后由 中国摇滚手册 于 2016-5-23 13:58 编辑
我来解答下吧，custom shop与否，看琴头背面的字，如果是印刷的并且有custom shop标志的，琴头背面哦，。，。应该是custom shop系列
图片看不太清，如果是雕刻机雕刻的编号及madeinusa。。那不用想，就是普通的std。，
琴盒子看起来应该是custom shop系列的，
如果是R系列很容易区分，看指板的塑料包边厚度和琴桥，很细的一条是R，比较宽的包边就是usa系列。琴桥是铝的，而且中间小桥比较窄的是R，琴桥是铁的，小桥比较宽的是普通的usa，回答完毕 中国摇滚手册 发表于 2016-5-23 13:56
我来解答下吧，custom shop与否，看琴头背面的字，如果是印刷的并且有custom shop标志的，琴头背面哦，。， ...
你的意思是 由于图片的清晰度不够 还是不能确定其到底是什么型号 本帖最后由 中国摇滚手册 于 2016-5-23 19:17 编辑
joyshen 发表于 2016-5-23 15:46
你的意思是 由于图片的清晰度不够 还是不能确定其到底是什么型号
对，琴头背面给张清晰的照片，立马可以辨别，然后背带扣不是原装 的，目前仅凭直觉上看，custom的几率要大很多 中国摇滚手册 发表于 2016-5-23 19:15
对，琴头背面给张清晰的照片，立马可以辨别，然后背带扣不是原装 的，目前仅凭直觉上看，custom的几率要 ...
感觉琴体的木料很一般啊，琴桥是不是铝的不明显，有可能是磨成那样的，今天看九几年的CS也都是有贴面的。。。。 就是std，琴桥是tom-one，不是abr-1 看了还是大多数人觉得是把普通的s t d 只会认卷弦器，好像只有std才有金属的 STD换的CUSTOM钟盖 个人没有G，看不出来，不知道是否图片问题，但是真心觉得没有爱德华的LP精致啊。说错楼主勿怪 我也觉得应该就是std，大多数人也是这么觉得 我是看不出来。。
不过就算是把CS，这成色和贴面在我眼里连一把STD都不值。。 sunzhenyu 发表于 2016-5-24 09:59
个人没有G，看不出来，不知道是否图片问题，但是真心觉得没有爱德华的LP精致啊。说错楼主勿怪 ...
羊媚mei 发表于 2016-5-24 10:45
我是看不出来。。
不过就算是把CS，这成色和贴面在我眼里连一把STD都不值。。 ...
此话说到重点 就琴本身来讲 不管是什么型号 都没有什么价值可言
但是我觉得这个问题我们稍微深入的思考一下G公司做了一把琴到了不看编号都不知道是哪款的情况 那CS做为对比std 他存在的价值又有哪些呢 难道就价格贵点给CS点买家多那么一点虚荣心 在这里也提醒下想入G的朋友 也许选择的时候可以更理性些 刚接触G，我也觉得像普通std 本帖最后由 joyshen 于 2016-5-24 15:09 编辑
通知大家一下 ，卖家已经更名“Gibson LP custom shop R8限量” joyshen 发表于 2016-5-24 14:53
此话说到重点 就琴本身来讲 不管是什么型号 都没有什么价值可言
但是我觉得这个问题我们 ...
琴确实不能只看外观，很多细节，木材的选材、木材的搭配。。。很多不是从照片上能看出来的
R9的音质和音色爆STD、黑卡这些完全瞬秒。Wildwood 羽毛轻量的R9的音色瞬秒绝大部分的量产R9。。。琴的音色来自内在的材质、木材搭配、装配工艺等，远远不是相似的外观能决定的 joyshen 发表于 2016-5-24 15:07
通知大家一下 ，卖家已经更名“Gibson LP custom shop R8限量”
扯蛋，，，谁见过R系列有用金属旋钮的。。。。。这明显自己坑自己么。。除非自己说换过旋钮， joyshen 发表于 2016-5-24 15:07
通知大家一下 ，卖家已经更名“Gibson LP custom shop R8限量”
扯蛋，，，谁见过R系列有用金属旋钮的。。。。。这明显自己坑自己么。。除非自己说换过旋钮， 本帖最后由 joyshen 于 2016-5-24 17:37 编辑
极速流星锤 发表于 2016-5-24 15:15
琴确实不能只看外观，很多细节，木材的选材、木材的搭配。。。很多不是从照片上能看出来的
R9的音质和音 ...
看来是我把话题扯跑偏了 R9咱们在这里不做评论 那毕竟是经典 是巅峰 是情怀…… 看背面就知道没换过 已经留言, 那卖家根本不敢发编号出来 http://www.gibson.com/Support/Serial-Number-Search.aspx
Gibson USA, Gibson Acoustic, Gibson Memphis
- From 1975-1977 the number is typically found on a decal on the back of the headstock. This should be an 8 digit number that can be dated by the 1st and 2nd digits as follows:
99 = 1975
00= 1976
06 = 1977
- In 1977, Gibson introduced the serialization method that we primarily use to this day at Gibson USA, Gibson Acoustic, and the Gibson Custom facility in Memphis, TN.
The serial number will be an 8 digit number impressed into the back of the headstock with "MADE IN USA" below.
The pattern is as follows:
YDDDYRRR
YY is the production year
DDD is the day of the year
RRR is the factory ranking/plant designation number.
Prior to 1984 when the Kalamazoo, MI factory was closed, the numbers 001-499 indicated Kalamazoo production. Ranking numbers 500-999 continued to indicate Nashville production through 1989.
Since 1989, all Gibson acoustics are built in Bozeman, MT and all Gibson electrics are built in Nashville or Memphis. Ranking numbers for Bozeman start each day at 001 and the electrics may start as low as the 300s.
Examples: 70108276 means the instrument was produced on Jan. 10, 1978, in Kalamazoo and was the 276th instrument stamped that day.
82765501 means the instrument was produced on Oct. 3, 1985, in Nashville and was the 1st instrument stamped that day.
NOTE - Gibson USA goes to a 9 digit serial number in early July 2005..
The sixth number is now a batch number- batch 0 starts at the beginning of the day, and once we stamp 699, the batch number will change to 1. The first 5 numbers remain the same, the last 3 numbers will remain the same. The only difference is the addition of this batch indicator.
There are always exceptions to these rules, the two listed below are worth noting:
Les Paul Classic: This model features an ink stamped serial number with no "MADE IN USA" (just as we used on the original 1952-1960 Les Pauls). Most will be 5 to 6 digits in length, but the earliest examples feature 4 digit serial numbers. There should be a space after the 1st digit with the 4 and 5 digit serial numbers, and no space with the 6 digit numbers.
The 1st digit indicates the year of manufacture for the 4 & 5 digit serial numbers, these were used from 1989-1999. The 1st and 2nd indicate the year of manufacture for the 6 digit serial numbers which we've been using since 2000.
Examples -
9 xxx = 1989 (4 digit number beginning with "9" used only in 1989)
0 xxxx = 1990
9 xxxx = 1999
00xxxx = 2000
05xxxx = 2005
Those beginning with "94":
In 1994, Gibson's Centennial year, many instruments have a serial number that begins with "94" for the year, with the remaining 6 digits indicating the ranking number.
Gibson USA 2014 to present – These serial numbers cannot be dated to a specific day of the year.
The new model year typically launches in the fall as the current model year winds down. It is not uncommon for a new model year model to be produced during the previous model year (example – a 2015 model may have been built in late 2014).
The pattern is as follows:
YYRRRRRRR
YY is the model year
RRRRRRR is the number in product for the model year (starts at 0000001)
Gibson Custom
1952-1960 Les Paul, Explorer, Flying V, and Futura reissues (since late 1992):
M YRRR or MYRRRR
M is the model year being reissued
Y is the production year
RRR(R) indicates the guitar's place production for that year. NOTE: This number includes all models for a particular reissue year - so, for example, a 1958 Reissue serial number may include '58 Reissue LP Standard and '58 Explorer production.
Example: 7 5123 is the 123rd 1957 reissue model produced in 2005.
1961-1969 Firebird, Les Paul, and SG reissues (since 1997):
YYRRRM
Y is the production year
RRR(R) indicates the guitar's place in production for that year.
M is the model being reissued
Reissue model codes:
1= SG Custom and Special
2= SG Standard
3= 1963 Firebird 1
4= 1964 Firebird III
5= 1965 Firebird V & VII
8= 1968 Les Paul Custom
Examples: 050102 is the 10th SG Standard reissue produced in 2005.
030084 is the 8th 1964 Firebird III reissue produced in 2003.
Historic ES MODELS (since 1995):
(A or B)-MYRRR
M is the model year being reissued
Y is the production year
RRR indicates the guitar's place in the sequence of Historic ES production for that year.
Reissue model codes:
2= ES-295
3= 1963 ES-335 (block inlays)
4= ES-330
5= ES-345
9 with an "A" prefix = 1959 ES-335 (dot inlays)
9 with a "B" prefix= ES-355
Example: A-38005 is the 5th '63 ES-335 Reissue produced in 1998.
Carved Top models (serial number on orange label)
YDDDYRRR
YY is the production year
DDD is the day of the year
RRR indicate the guitar's place in the sequence of carved tops made that day.
NOTE - as of 2000, 1st digit will be a "2"
Examples:
91418009 is the 9th carved top produced on the 141st day of 1998.
20045002 was the 2nd carved top stamped on the 4th day of 2005.
Custom Shop regular production models
CSYRRRR
CS stands for "Custom Shop"
Y indicates the production year
RRRR indicates the guitar's place in the sequence of production
Example: CS10845 is the 845th reg. production CS model produced in 2001.
CS Signature Models:
The list below is not an exhaustive listing but we have included many of our most popular Signature models. Please contact us at service@gibson.com should you have any questions.
Ace Frehley Les Paul
- 1997 Limited run, numbered in sequence as "ACE xxx"
Note: The discontinued Gibson USA Ace Frehley Signature Les Paul has a standard 8 digit serial number.
Andy Summers ES-335
Limited edition of 50. Numbered in sequence as "AS xxxx"
Dickey Betts '57 goldtop Les Paul
Limited edition of 114. Numbered in sequence as "DB xxx"
Dickey Betts '57 red top Les Paul
Numbered in sequence as "DBR xxx"
Gary Rossington Les Paul
Limited edition of 250. Numbered in sequence as "GR xxx"
Gary Rossington SG
Limited edition of 250. Numbered in sequence as "13xxx"
Jimmy Page Les Paul (3 versions)
-1st 25 aged models were hand numbered 1-25 and signed by Jimmy Page, no other number is on this model.
-Limited run of 150 aged models are numbered in sequence as "PAGE xxx"
-Unlimited run of Custom Authentic models are numbered in sequence as "JPP xxx"
Note: The discontinued Gibson USA Jimmy Page Signature Les Paul has a standard 8 digit serial number.
Joe Perry Les Paul (2 models)
- Joe Perry Signature Les Paul from 1996 (trans black finish) - numbered in sequence as "JPxxx"
- Boneyard LP - Pilot Run models have an inked number and hand written "Pilot Run". The production version (no difference in spec) numbered in sequence as "BONE xxx"
Note: The discontinued Gibson USA Joe Perry Signature Les Paul made has a standard 8 digit serial number.
Johnny A.
Numbered in sequence as "JA xxx"
Pete Townshend LP Deluxe
Limited run of 75, numbered in sequence as "PETE xxx"
Peter Frampton Les Paul (2 models)
- PF LP Custom - numbered in sequence as "PF xxx"
- PF LP Special - numbered in sequence as "PFYxxx" Y indicates the year of production.
Slash Les Paul (2 models)
- 1997 limited edition model, cranberry finish: numbered in sequence as "SL xxx"
- Regular production model introduced in 2004, also numbered in sequence as "SL xxx"
Note: The discontinued Epiphone Slash Les Paul made has a standard Epiphone serial number.
Tony Iommi SG
Numbered in sequence as "TI xxx"
Zakk Wylde Les Paul
Bullseye and the rare "Rough Top" version numbered in sequence as "ZW xxx"
Camo version numbered in sequence as "ZPW xxx"
本帖最后由 joyshen 于 2016-5-24 21:31 编辑
疯狂的和弦 发表于 2016-5-24 20:53
http://www.gibson.com/Support/Serial-Number-Search.aspx
Gibson USA, Gibson Acoustic, Gibson Memphis ...
哥们这个发的全 虽然不怎么看的懂 但能看个大致 现在的情况就是 如果编号能出来 就水落石出了
不过就目前的情况 编号是出不来了 要出早出了 让卖家把琴细节发gc上大家看看，敢发吗？闲鱼上看过那把琴和留言，卖家嘴真臭，这种人卖的东西敢买吗？ 有离着近的，去看看琴，回来给大伙说说，哈哈 dangermanGls 发表于 2016-5-24 21:44
有离着近的，去看看琴，回来给大伙说说，哈哈
这个感情好 最好拍照发出来 我还以为他是脑浊的鼓手许林，但是一看不是，但是应该是一个职业鼓手。这是他的秒拍 http://www.miaopai.com/u/wxsso_u7sr4hea3y 哈,吉他圈子很小, 这大爷也算出名了,给北京爷们儿长脸了 哈,发编号了
016903 + ?
可能是016903xx,或者016903xxx
所以如果是八位数编号,那就是00年的琴,如果是9位数编号那就是01年的琴
和任何一种gibson custom工厂的les paul编号都不对应
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