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Martin GPCPA1 试听
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2011-Martin OM-1GT试听
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回复 1048# 江郎 的帖子
呵呵，其实还有几款新的不过没传上去，懒得传了，大同小异的。 其实如果玩弹唱的买把D1装个拾音器非常棒了。价格实惠。 原帖由 МцsīС 于 2011-2-25 13:44 发表 http://bbs.guitarschina.com/images/common/back.gif呵呵，其实还有几款新的不过没传上去，懒得传了，大同小异的。
是的，多听几下觉得相差也不大了，不过还是好奇，有新的一定要传呀，哈哈 谢谢MusiC和江郎的上传，太棒了。
闭着眼睛听感觉差异挺明显，喜欢HD28VS的浓浓低音和GPCPA1极具现代感的音色。 Suite Caroline Martin Stage at the 2011
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Martin D28 试听
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回复 1051# 江郎 的帖子
等看到私人买了弹唱或演奏的视频再传，回复没有提示真无奈。回复 1052# banjoroll 的帖子
那里，大家都有共同的爱好嘛，呵呵，发在这里发，在优酷还没几个人会找呢。 终于会发图了，两次想买taylor，都买了martin，但也喜欢泰勒。大家参考下两把换一把泰勒如何？ 个人感觉还是别换，虽然说可能taylor的声音更加适合各种音乐，因为高低音平衡的都比较好，但是马丁也是很棒的，风格不一样，多把琴没有什么不好啊 刚才看到了这条新闻，心情很糟糕和愤怒。。。Martin guitar firm fights imitations in ChinaChinese knock-offs bear the Martin logo but lack Martin quality, company says.
Nazareth's C.F. Martin & Co. has put nearly two centuries and plenty of sweat into perfecting its beloved acoustic guitars.
The name has earned a reputation for quality across the music industry, where Martin guitars have been the choice of such famed musicians as Eric Clapton and the Beatles.
So it was particularly galling for Chris Martin, the company's sixth-generation CEO, when China denied the company permission to register its trademark there a few years ago, saying it was too late.
Someone else was selling inferior replicas in China at a fraction of the price, even stamping their stock with the C.F. Martin logo, right down to the "Est. 1833," Martin said Wednesday, turning one of the facsimiles over in his hands to show hairline cracks at the base of the neck.
That particular model retails for about $2,500, Martin said. The imitation was selling for $100 to $600.
The company is fighting to get the rights to its name back in China. But China hasn't been receptive and the U.S. government has been unable to do much about it.
"If you want to make guitars and put your name on it, go for it," Martin said Wednesday at a press conference in Nazareth called to draw attention to the trademark issue. But, he added, "Stop putting my name on your guitars — it's just not right."
Martin said some of his company's customers came upon the inferior guitars at a music industry trade show in Shanghai in October. To the untrained eye, it's hard to tell the real from the fake, though there are cracks and other blemishes that develop in the knockoffs.
Corporate identity theft has been a problem for the music industry in China for more than a decade, since companies from other parts of the world began producing musical instruments there, said Ronald Bienstock, a Hackensack, N.J., intellectual property attorney who specializes in the music industry. The Obama administration raised the issue during Chinese Premier Hu Jintao's January state visit and China has promised to make improvements.
But until changes are made, the International Intellectual Property Alliance, which represents U.S. copyright industries, recommended last week that the Office of the U.S. Trade Representative keep China on its priority watch list of countries that don't honor intellectual property rights.
Unlike much of the world, China has a first-come, first-served policy on trademarks, Bienstock said. The person or company that is first to register a brand name there gets to market products under that name, even if they didn't establish the brand or hold the rights to it in the rest of the world.
The company making Martin guitars in China isn't breaking any Chinese laws.
It's unlikely that the sale of imitation Chinese-made C.F. Martin guitars is completely limited to China, Bienstock said. "I'm sure they are getting out of the Chinese borders," he said. A quick Google search turned up several sellers offering "Martin" guitars for $300 to $400.
Martin was joined at the press conference by Sen. Bob Casey, D-Pa., who said he has urged the Obama administration to keep pressure on the Chinese government to respect the intellectual property of U.S. companies.
"It is incumbent upon our government to do everything we can to make sure that we have a very direct and engaged dialogue on this so the Chinese government can change its policy so that you don't have this counterfeiting going on," Casey said.
Casey said he has also urged the administration and written legislation that would require the departments of Commerce and the Treasury to lean harder on China to stop manipulating its currency, because it puts American manufacturers at a financial disadvantage.
It's in the interests of the Chinese government to comply if it wants to maintain a productive trade relationship with the U.S., which is its largest trade partner, Casey said. Total trade between the two countries was $457 billion in 2010.
Bienstock said economics might be the best leverage companies in the music industry and elsewhere have: moving their offshore production facilities to countries that respect their company names. Some have had luck opening factories in countries such as Vietnam that appear to have more respect for trademarks.
Martin doesn't make guitars in China, only at a plant in Nazareth that employs about 500 and at one in Mexico. But the company is hoping to expand exports to China, Martin said.
The company had held back marketing its products there until income levels rose enough to create a significant customer base for the fairly expensive guitars. Even with the imitations, the company has managed to sell $700,000 worth of its products in China. International trade is important to the company, which exported 35 percent of its production last year, Martin said.
"Our biggest export market is Japan; they have a great deal of respect for the Martin guitar," he said. "My hope is that someday the Chinese market will be as robust for us."
回复 1064# banjoroll 的帖子
山寨归山寨，马丁公司这样说也不好，以后国内的马丁估计成色都不怎么好的了，呵呵，万一他们把瑕疵的卖给国内的商家。回复 1062# leethal 的帖子
这两把加起来只能买到taylor4系列吧，信价比不高于马丁。倒不如换HD28 问题的关键是我们政府认为国内假冒马丁的注册是完全合法的。所以理论上讲如果美国马丁在国内销售，山寨马丁倒可以起诉告真正的马丁，可笑。。。不难理解中国为何在国际上会被列入“不尊重保护知识产权”的首要国家了，可悲。。。 其他的东西其实都好忍，比如说山寨苹果的魅族，觉得气一下美国佬也好，但是吉他这东西就决不能容忍了，万一花了好多钱买了一把假的就糟了。但是可笑的是美国告魅族就告成功了，告马丁却没有，看来解决的方法只有一个：找到那山寨马丁厂把它砸了，把那些领头的脱光衣裤戴上高帽子，送到北京让光大琴友来批斗 原帖由 banjoroll 于 2011-2-25 23:13 发表 http://bbs.guitarschina.com/images/common/back.gif
问题的关键是我们政府认为国内假冒马丁的注册是完全合法的。所以理论上讲如果美国马丁在国内销售，山寨马丁倒可以起诉告真正的马丁，可笑。。。
不难理解中国为何在国际上会被列入“不尊重保护知识产权”的首要国家 ...
想起奇瑞QQ和雪佛兰Spark；
前者山寨后者，通用到处活动无果。结果奇瑞真的发展壮大了。 假的终究是假的，吉他不是汽车，能开起来还问题不大。。。吉他也不是MP3，听播放音质差不多也就算了。。
Martin具有不可取代的独特魅力，假货连得其皮毛都做不到。
说到底，哪怕Martin在中国改了牌子，那独特的音色还是属于Martin的价值。山寨，哪怕把全世界的Martin品牌都注册了，还是没人理睬，依旧烂木头一堆。
市场在进步，琴友 消费者们的判断能力在飞速成长。相信就算是“合法的假货”，早晚也会关门倒闭，赚不到一毛钱！
[ 本帖最后由 走音shanghai 于 2011-2-26 01:12 编辑 ] 原帖由 soccerfish 于 2011-2-26 00:51 发表 http://bbs.guitarschina.com/images/common/back.gif
想起奇瑞QQ和雪佛兰Spark；
前者山寨后者，通用到处活动无果。结果奇瑞真的发展壮大了。
但是，对于喜欢马丁琴和声音的人来说，对于马丁的需要，是别的品牌所无法代替的，是刚性需求。但是国人对于奇瑞QQ的需求，却不是刚性的。
这个，关系到当年龙永图签订世贸协议时候的一些原因。我们自己以为这样做，可以在一定程度上反击到米国，并且占到一些便宜。goverment自以为在下一盘胸有成竹的棋。实则不然，其结果是导致山寨盛行。继而，就是我们自己创造力的散失。
我们现在，不但工业领域和学术领域只能走上山寨的路子。再看看国内的音乐领域，能叫座的，基本都是山寨歌曲和泥土歌曲。
整个思路是这样的：goverment的短视，无远见----》急功近利的政策和舆论引导-----》浮躁的社会环境，浮躁的工业环境，浮躁的文化环境------》各个行业和各个社会组成结构，都不能潜心地研究本领域的课题-------》社会基本结构和组成单元的急功近利------》山寨盛行-----》文化领域，科技领域，工业领域，学术领域的集体创出性散失。
完毕。
[ 本帖最后由 kkpig119 于 2011-2-26 01:25 编辑 ] 原帖由 kkpig119 于 2011-2-26 01:17 发表 http://bbs.guitarschina.com/images/common/back.gif
但是，对于喜欢马丁琴和声音的人来说，对于马丁的需要，是别的品牌所无法代替的，是刚性需求。但是国人对于奇瑞QQ的需求，却不是刚性的。
这个，关系到当年龙永图签订世贸协议时候的一些原因。我们自己以为 ...
楼上所言极是 盗版大国不只有中国，还有俄罗斯。山寨问题背后是zhengzhi问题，客观上还是保护了民族企业的，martin又没在中国建厂，你买琴的钱毕竟都交给老美了。东南沿海那么多厂子，没山寨就影响就业率，没就业率政府多没面子。 何况我不觉得一个有钱去买martin的人会傻到听不出600刀和2500刀的琴的差别。当然了，小厂子走自己创新，不山寨的路当然是正道啊，中国总不能一辈子山寨。不过这社会风气…这法制建设…总之不是道德谴责能解决的问题。各位不爽自己喜欢的品牌被山寨我是可以理解，我也用martin的，不过这确实不是政府能马上解决的简单问题，慢慢解决吧。我也觉得martin公司很委屈，来中国做生意的外企多半都很委屈。 马丁好是好，但是太贵了，我挺喜欢000-15的，国内貌似都在一万元。还有跟00-15不知道区别在哪，用材也都一样的。
山寨的问题，太复杂。虽然存在的不一定就是合理的，但却有他的理由。 原帖由 liyejun0913 于 2011-2-26 08:55 发表 http://bbs.guitarschina.com/images/common/back.gif
马丁好是好，但是太贵了，我挺喜欢000-15的，国内貌似都在一万元。还有跟00-15不知道区别在哪，用材也都一样的。
山寨的问题，太复杂。虽然存在的不一定就是合理的，但却有他的理由。
000和00的区别就是尺寸，00更小一些，我最近考虑入000-28H，手里的000-15M考虑出，楼上有兴趣到时候可以联系我
[ 本帖最后由 wangsinger 于 2011-2-26 13:14 编辑 ] 我是搞知识产权的，就假马丁的事儿说两句，从法律上来讲，商标权是有地域性的，如果马丁没有在中国注册，那他的商标在中国是不受保护的，别人是可以注册的，而且谁先注册就是谁的，你真马丁进入中国反而会侵犯假马丁的商标权，之前，真马丁可能不太重视中国市场，因此没有在中国注册商标，让中国的仿冒者钻了空子，就像当年蓝摇琴行的“杰克逊”电吉他一样，也是在真东家之前抢先注册了商标，然后以真琴的价格出售，你去告人家是假的，在法律上是不支持的，因此人家赚到了第一桶金，不过，随着资讯的发达，真相大白于天下，蓝摇现在已经不再出售“杰克逊”了，而是有了自己的品牌，从这个角度来讲，是马丁的“疏忽”、“轻视”导致了当前较为尴尬的局面，按理说，国外那么重视知识产权，不应该啊，现在唯有拿起法律的武器捍卫自己的名誉，毕竟，商标法里还有“例外”的规定，比如可以认定“马丁”是驰名商标，然后以此撤销假冒商标，到底有多驰名？又是一套法律程序，这个估计要闹上几年才能摆平，而且吉他这个东西，也就咱们这些爱好者知道马丁驰名，你去问一下商标局的人，有几个知道马丁吉他的？
就像当年的伟哥一样，伟哥是人家外国人发明的，毋庸置疑，国外的专利权人起诉中国多家药企侵权，愣是让这些药企把它的专利给无效掉了，幸亏人家也不是吃素的，按照法律程序一直告到底，先后经历了恢复-再无效-再恢复等十分滑稽的过程，最后如何就没有再关注过了！
再说说国内的这些仿冒者，现在是信息时代，假琴掘金的年代已一去不复返，劝各位不要继续丢国人的脸了，我们这些马丁迷瞧不起你们！ 我只知道涛哥又和奥弟签了8000亿的订单，这个是神马，其他都是浮云，我们唯一能做的就是不看浮云，手握神马即可，从行动上支持内心需要支持的！ 这是技术含量很高的帖子！ 非常好！
回复 1066# МцsīС 的帖子
有点道理，如果有合适的8系倒是可以考虑加钱。小白提个问题
请问马丁的琴是没有背带钉么？本人学生估计要买也就是马丁低端的dx1系列的或者泰勒1、2系，想问高手你们一般是怎么给马丁安背带的？ 同求dx1原声和电箱系列的使用感受？多谢大大们了 感谢江郎提供这么多视听我耳拙，基本听不出区别
不同时间分别弹过HD28、D28、D1，前二者的声音相近，我无法说出差别，D1与前二者的差别比较明显，整体共鸣、低音都不如前二者，不排除我弹的那把D1特别不好
回复 1080# baboontip 的帖子
我见过的都有背带钉。没用过dx1，但你要经常用电箱演奏的话买taylor好了… 原帖由 kkpig119 于 2011-2-23 21:38 发表 http://bbs.guitarschina.com/images/common/back.gif刹那哥，出给我吧
哈哈，好，出了，站内短信联系我
两曲马丁OMCPA1试听！
http://www.tudou.com/programs/view/PVOHsXxsaVU/自己录得，把它贴到这个集结号里最适合不过了，弹得不好，关键是大家听听音色吧。[ 本帖最后由 MARIEN 于 2011-2-28 10:52 编辑 ]
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http://www.tudou.com/programs/view/PNvlWqwalqw/ 原帖由 MARIEN 于 2011-2-28 10:43 发表 http://bbs.guitarschina.com/images/common/back.gifhttp://www.tudou.com/programs/view/PVOHsXxsaVU/自己录得，把它贴到这个集结号里最适合不过了，弹得不好，关键是大家听听音色吧。 楼上的音频放不出声，怎么回事？