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发表于 2012-11-30 00:53:35 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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虽说自己有把不错的琴Seagull Maritime 'SWS' HG,不过为了圆自己一个MARTIN梦,还是准备烧吧.........
因为还是比较喜欢窄指板,又喜欢M36和omjm的复古黄所以一直在00028H M36 omjm这几支琴里纠结............查了下国外的网
站说法也不一...........拿不定主意啊!!!




请GC各位用过这几把琴的朋友,特别是蒋大哥给些建议啊!!!

既然发帖也要给大家一些有用的东西,下面是在国外网站查到一些资料

给各位martin迷分享下 000和OM 的区别,大家也可以做些参考:

Nut Width (includes wider neck and bridge spacing):

OM. OMs normally have a 1 3/4" nut width. However, some Limited and Special Editions (John Mayer, Paul Simon, Richie Sambora) have 1 11/16".

12-fret 000. All 12-fret 000s have a 1 3/4 nut width or greater.

14-fret 000.
a. All 000's in the 16 Series and below are 1 11/16".
a. The 000-18 and the 000-28 000s in the Standard Series and below are 1 11/16" and the 000-42 is 1 3/4".
b. All 000s in the Vintage Series are 1 3/4" or greater (000-28VS)
c. 000s in the Limited and Special editions vary by model, but most are 1 3/4".

Scale Length:

OM. All OMs are long scale, 25.4" nut to saddle.

12-fret 000. All 12-fret 000s are long scale (since approximately 1924) except for the Norman Blake models, which are short scale. These models are an exception to the rule, perhaps because they combine a 12-fret neck with a 14-fret 000 size body and are thus one-of-a-kind design models.

14-fret 000:
a. All 000s in the 16 Series and below are long scale.
b. All 000s in the Standard and Vintage Series are short scale, 24.9" nut to saddle.
c. 000s in the Limited and Special Editions vary by model. Most, but not all, are short scale.

Bracing:

16 Series and below: All 14-fret 16 Series and below OMs and 000s have identical bracing by comparable model, i.e., 000-15 vs OM-15. 12-fret 000s have their own bracing pattern.

OM. All OMs in the Standard Series and above are 1/4" scalloped, with forward placed bracing.

12-fret 000. All in the Standard Series and above are scalloped with forward bracing. The 1938/9 rear placement on the 14 fret models never occurred with 12-fret 000's, so they maintain their original configuration. 16 Series have Hybrid-X bracing, which is scalloped but an entirely different pattern, and 15 Series and below have A-Frame bracing, which is simpler and not scalloped. Thanks to oldtimey828 for this latest info.

14-fret 000.

a. Standard Series are 5/16" non scalloped for the 000-18 and 000-28 and scalloped for the 000-42. The 000-28H is no longer listed but was scalloped.
b. Vintage Series: 5/16" scalloped. The 000-28EC is not forward shifted. I believe that the 000-18WG was forward shifted, but it is no longer listed.
c. Limited Editions: Varies by model.
d. Special Editions: Varies by model.
e. Exceptions: The 000-18GE and 000-18A bracing pattern is 1/4" and forward placed. The 000-18 Kenny Sultan is 1/4" but not forward placed.

Pickguard:

OM. All OMs have the small “teardrop” pickguard.

000. All currently produced 12 and 14-fret 000s that have a pickguard have the large size (except the Martin Carthy 000-18, which has the teardrop).

Body Size (inches):

OM and 14-fret 000.
Body Length: 19 3/8
Upper Bout: 11 1/4
Lower Bout: 15
Upper Depth: 3 11/32
Lower Depth: 4 1/8

12-fret 000.
Body Length: 20 7/16
Upper Bout: 10 3/4
Lower Bout: 15
Upper Depth: 3 1/4
Lower Depth: 4 1/16

Headstock:

12-fret 000: Most are slotted headstock, but a few (Jimmy Buffett) are solid headstock
14-fret 000: All are solid headstock
OM: All are solid headstock

As far as tone etc. goes, this subject is of course very subjective. This is a bit of an overgeneralizaiton, but many folks think that the OM has more volume and projection due to the longer scale length, and the 000 has a "Blusier" sound and is easier to play.
发表于 2012-11-30 03:57:49 | 显示全部楼层

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``个人从音色宽度来看,M36比较好。
就不知道楼主需要什么样的音色。
发表于 2012-11-30 08:13:17 | 显示全部楼层
GC视频号
最好网上试听下 有条件去试弹下
发表于 2012-11-30 10:33:29 | 显示全部楼层
买琴买鼓,就找魔菇
14-fret比较好。
发表于 2012-11-30 10:46:12 | 显示全部楼层
ooo和M型,区别在于弦长和箱体大小不同,至于指板都是一样的。D型标准宽。我不是弹过,是拥有过两个琴型的马丁,所以才说这话,不过具体数据我不知道, 音色000型箱体小些,适合指弹,弹唱音头过于突出,不好掌握,有点强人声,M型....早已很多琴友下定论,全能型。包括养眼..呵呵。奉劝尽快决定,赶紧买,或许一些代理商那边还有存货,不然新进马丁,已经调价了。
发表于 2012-11-30 10:48:07 | 显示全部楼层
如有误导,请见谅。
发表于 2012-11-30 11:06:23 | 显示全部楼层
这些琴里面,只有M36不是签名版,不是签名版MARTIN味道会更原始一些,签名版会多一些签名者的音色偏好!如果你狠喜欢签名者的那种味道,可能选签名版合适~~~~

看你咋选了·~

OM 42 是你的·····最合适选择!!

小双!!

[ 本帖最后由 名屋老李 于 2012-11-30 11:07 编辑 ]
发表于 2012-11-30 11:55:00 | 显示全部楼层
楼主可以的,先回答你的问题,首先你选的三款琴,指板宽度和琴颈样式都是一样的,00028H木材级别最高,M36其实就是0000型背板三拼,OMJM是款OM型。音色而言,OM型的音色适用范围更广泛。

另外根据你描述的个人癖好,OM21special才是最合适的,复古黄,OM琴体,指板宽度和琴颈shape跟以上三者一样,金字塔形复古琴桥,而且是全实木包边。要知道你上面选的三款那可都是ABS琴体包边。

还有话说、、、00028H哪里能买到新的??

最后,我想说、、、原文资料神马的最有爱了,相信OM还是000这个问题等待普及已久了,稍后我将另开一贴做一个中文翻译版,提供大家参考。
发表于 2012-11-30 13:15:07 | 显示全部楼层
http://bbs.guitarschina.com/viewt ... =page%3D1&frombbs=1
感谢楼主资料提供

[ 本帖最后由 cloverxyz 于 2012-11-30 13:16 编辑 ]
 楼主| 发表于 2012-12-1 16:16:15 | 显示全部楼层
不好意思,这么晚才回复大家!感谢大家热心地给我建议,辛苦了!!!   

本人最关心的音色方面因为这几只琴都没有弹过,也仅仅只是听过一些试听,还希望各位弹过这些琴的朋友给补充下吧.也给其他和我有同样纠结的朋友一些帮助。

下面是我对这几只琴硬件方面的一些了解:

1.箱体大小:经过这几天的考虑,自己还是倾向于000和OM比较小的箱体。因为M36属于0000型的,箱体相比000和OM而言要大一点,故排除之。

2..颜色外观:其实自己对签名款的琴不是很在意,对自己来说基本没有什么意义。主要是喜欢那复古的颜色,很有FEELing。哈哈

3.指板:版主说的没错,确实几只琴的指板的shape和宽度都是一样的,因为之前弹过00016RGT,自己感觉非常舒适。

4.OM的琴的弦长要比000的要长一点,不知道对音色方面有何影响,希望哪位朋友普及下。

5.因为自己现在的琴上已经有一只Seymour Duncan Mag Mic SA6 拾音器,打算新琴到手后换到新琴上去,不过OMJM自带了
    Martin Gold Plus Natural 1拾音器,如果确定下手OMJM的话,也打算用自己的SA6,不知道自带款拾音器是否容易出手。哎············折腾啊!!!

在此特别感谢名屋李老板的建议 之前来你店里看了OM42,确实让我日夜思念啊·····不过自己的预算不足啊····

至于版主介绍的OM21 special确实不错,就是不知多少大洋,而且连名屋也没有这琴啊·······

回版主00028H我一个朋友在美国那边是可以买到的,这琴在中国可能就只有蒋大哥手上有一把吧。
发表于 2012-12-3 02:00:30 | 显示全部楼层
om21sp 2W左右
发表于 2012-12-16 11:12:12 | 显示全部楼层
同样纠结于这几款琴的帮顶 好帖啊
发表于 2012-12-18 03:20:39 | 显示全部楼层
不喜欢M型,剩下两把都很好。
发表于 2012-12-28 03:48:39 | 显示全部楼层
和楼主一样,最近也在纠结这个问题,马上入手的琴必须满足以下四点:

1,马丁,  2,OM或000      3,窄指板(1品处窄了1.58mm,还是可观的)   4,必须rosewood   

所以最后,敲定几个选择项: 00028,    00028H,    OMJM, 现在最纠结的,也是楼主最关心的问题

000的有效弦长是24.9英寸,OMJM是25.4英寸,也就是00028H短了 1.27cm, 从官网图片也能看出区别,而

且,短的部分,貌似还不是,14品到琴码的位置,而是,1品--14品的长度少了1.27cm,想知道它对音色有多大

影响,俩琴到底有什么区别,包括切削和非切削音色有啥区别也不是特别清楚。。。

[ 本帖最后由 baoniu001 于 2012-12-28 03:56 编辑 ]
发表于 2012-12-28 03:54:28 | 显示全部楼层
另外,000和OMJM 箱体尺寸完全一样, 有效弦长差了1.27cm,应该不至于对于音量有多大影响,理论上音量的

差别是听不大出来的吧,当然非常敏感的人除外。

还有,楼主摘抄的:000 is easier to play ? 为什么,这个指的是琴弦张力么?如果是,也不太理解,理论上说

有效弦长越短,应该弦张力越大,更不太好弹才对。可是我的小martin,弦的确是比DCX1KE松一些,好弹一

些,好奇原理。。。。。
发表于 2013-6-28 10:27:28 | 显示全部楼层
当然是弦长越短,达到相同音高的张力越小。物理学原理。
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