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练不好琴的十个原因

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发表于 2012-1-13 05:02:23 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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我在一个网站上看到的,拿过来跟大家分享一下。感觉作者写的很在理,看了感觉自己中了好多枪啊。。。。。



本来想用Google翻译的,但是翻译得很糟糕。

懂英文的可以自行观看,能译成中文的请不要吝惜笔墨。我慢慢把文章一段一段翻译吧,表达不对之处还请见谅。

The Classical Guitar or the Concert Guitar or the Spanish Guitar, whatever name you may fancy is an instrument that requires rigorous training and practice to perfect even the most easy and intermediate of pieces. Most Classical Guitar teachers know very well about the enormous amount of labor and difficulty they went through to accomplish the set of substantial skills that made them a Concert Guitarist. Superficially the Classical Guitar might seem to be easy, when u try to hone a skill or two on it, you feel the pinch, don't you ? Anyways, throughout history, most people who tried the Classical Guitar thinking of it as a gateway to relaxation, certainly met the very opposite of what they had expected. Most of them who tried, succeeded to some extent with which they were satisfied and got accepted as recitalists, some took it seriously enough to strive and become a world renowned concert guitarist, but there are always those who failed in spite of being good in other instruments or simply found the pick style guitar to be more comfortable. I've jotted down 10 reason below that'll give u an insight on why these people who fail, generally fail :


1. Inconsistent Posture

It sounds obvious doesn't it? We all did it, some of us who are reading this till date do it and the real reason for which we do this in most cases is because we shifted from the pick guitar and got all serious about the Concert one. For some of  you who are living in a cave and don't know about the posture-less pick style guitar, then u ought to know that even though there is a posture for steel string/pick guitars as well, but there is no fixed or strict posture. However, educated plec-style jazz guitarist recommend using a Guitar strap adjusted to the same height in which they would be playing on stage standing, to be used strictly while they practice. But very few pick guitarists follow that and even if they don't; they still succeed, because they don't have to deal with the uber-complex complexity that is an inherent feature of the Classical Guitar. The kind of pieces with the amount of contrapuntal complexity and dexterity involved in classical guitar is obviously a couple of times more difficult in comparison to the pick style. Inconsistent posture can lead to bad habits, bad articulation etc. Always use a foot-rest, cushion , clamp or whatever makes u comfy. Try not to play in any other posture at all. You can try the Paco de lucia posture at your own risk. Still if you have to play, when u are in a guitar shop and you are too embarrassed to ask for a foot rest; if i were u i would take my cushion or ask for one. Most people obviously seem to be too lost in the music itself and overlook this issue.




2. Horrible Nail File-ing

Nail filing isn't obviously as easy as it seems. Some people just don't get it. You need a good shape of your nails, and u need to file your nails at least two to three times a week. What most people forget is that they need to file and smooth-en their nails with sandpaper frequently. The best thing to do is to do it for a few seconds every single day, now this might slightly be risky, but once you've gained enough experience you'll know what to file, how to file, what to keep, angle, shape etc. You need two types of decent nail files and a fine sandpaper. I use P 2500, generally the rule is to get the most smooth surfaced sandpaper.It all boils down to experience I guess. Nails are extremely important. Most people think of nail filing to be a big hassle and ultimately quit and switch to pick style guitars. Piano players who are trying to learn the Guitar experience some difficulty in playing some virtuoso passages on the piano with the right hand finger nails, hence this is a good reason why they quit. Some people keep long nails and end up breaking them which lags their progress. To get expert advice on nail filing, get the Scott tennant dvds.




3. Absence of music stand & Guitar support

If you don't have a music stand then please get one. The most cheapest ones cost around $10. Placing your sheet flat on the desk or the bed has been proven to be inefficient and also causes vision problems. And get a foot rest , or a cushion, or something else, try experimenting with all of them. It all comes down to you, whichever makes you feel comfortable is the best option for you.




4. Not using the Metronome

Metronome helps to give you a steady beat and helps u play more accurately and gives u a great sense of time. As a performer, you may hit a wrong note or hit a buzzy one, but there's nothing more flawed than having a bad sense of time. Highly recommended for beginner, intermediate & advanced students. Most people who never heard of a metronome ended up never hearing any compliments when it came to their guitar playing.




5. Lack of Sight Reading

Since the Classical Guitar's core repertoire is Classical music, you have to be a really good sight reader in order to qualify as a really good classical guitarist, there's no other alternative. For those who just put pieces into memory and plan to sight read once a month, well I could assure them that the path they've taken is indeed a dark one. Sight Read everyday, make those staff notations your friends.Those who forgot that sight reading was a part of the regular routine, didn't get along with the Classical Guitar very well.




6. Not Getting the right action, comfort and feel

The action, intonation, saddle, everything might need some adjustments at first. They might also need adjustments over periods of time, necks can warp. Everyone has their own preferences right? Get them done before its too late. I heard people who never thought about getting comfortable with the Classical Guitar mostly flunked.




7. Not having a Good Classical Guitar

If you had expected to fall in and love pursue serious Classical Guitar studies playing on a $100 Yamaha C40, then think again! Classical Guitar is not fun and games. Guitars are the products of years of experience, knowledge, patience, skills of the worlds best luthiers. Once you are serious about the Classical Guitar, getting a good guitar around $2000 dollars is your first priority. When u evolve as one of the fine Concert guitarists in the world, then u can think of buying a $5000- $10,000 custom made luthier model.




8. Rushing to play a lot of pieces

There are those who simply don't know when to slow down. They also believe in two other dogma's - 1. playing fast means you're a great player & 2. having a gigantic repertoire makes you better than anyone else. For the love of music, have fun, play and perfect a piece for the 1000th time. As a performer, you are the sole interpreter, don't just play pieces from muscle memory, but try giving the piece a new life. Every note should be heard prominently even the soft ones, every note should have its own volume and color, now that's called articulation. Having a tempo as rigid as the metronome will only make u sound like a robot, try to loosen up a little, but make sure that u don't mess up the rhythm. Serious interpreters make changes, if you have enough knowledge and confidence then you can obviously edit the piece and tailor it fashionably to make it look as if it came out of you. However, too much deviation can mess things up, unless you are improvising on a jazz standard. Use your inward eye to feel what the composer has felt, study the subjectivity of the piece and the period. Add some legatos, harmonics, an introduction or an ending. Trying having your own arrangements. Do not forget legatos, individual hammer ons and just plain pull offs, sliding and most importantly vibrato, and study how to use them in context. Now that's what artistic interpretation is all about.




9. Not attempting enough E-tudes

Etudes are extremely important, do not even have the thought of undermining the power of e-tudes. Not only do the great players recommend it, but i can assure you that practicing the e-tudes one by one from an e-tude book is a better option compared to playing various pieces, if you want to advance quickly in a short time. Even if you want to advance slowly ( for some odd reason ) e-tudes are highly recommended. And please do read what the e-tudes are intended for. People who never attempted any etudes hardly get any recognition as mature recitalists.





10. Lack of Improvisation & Aural Training

Without Improvisation, there would be no composition. Improvisation is itself a phenomenally interesting feature in the world of music. All the greatest Classical & jazz musicians improvised. Composition on the other hand was a logical extension, refinement and arrangement of an improvisation that has been carefully edited, & thoughtfully constructed. In order to improvise one needs aural training, try to hum the notes of the guitar and sing what u play. Music is an aural artform and u cannot deny that. So getting an Aural training, so that you at least have a 'relative pitch' to pick up a tune by ear and knowing the intervals is a skill that
is mandatory. This indispensable skill will help you in feeling the depth of a musical composition, be able to connect with it, acknowledge the musical logic behind it, appreciate its structure etc. Even if you don't want to be a composer, all this will benefit you in becoming a good interpreter.




Bonus Reason : Lack of Exercise, Guitar Aerobics & Yoga

Playing Guitar, especially the classical Guitar makes u bend forward. This can cause shoulder aches and loads of problems. Yoga, meditation, deep breathing, exercising, free-hand,  stretching etc. is highly recommended for musicians. Try exercising for half an hour a day.

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练不好琴的十个原因(译文)

1.没有固定的姿势
这还用说?不过每个人有过这样的经历。 有些读者至今还是这样, 很大的一个原因是我们一会儿很随意地当民谣指弹拿一会儿又认真地像开个人演奏会一样。
对与那些连民谣吉他啥样都没见过的人你们得知道民谣是没有固定手势的。
然而, 一个真正有素质的民谣或者爵士吉他手会建议你把背带调到固定的长度,不管是舞台上还是练习。 虽然很少有人这样,大部分人民谣还是都弹得不错,因为民谣不像古典那样与生俱来就有复杂的指法。
古典曲目多声部以及对手指灵敏性的要求显然就比民谣指弹难上几个档次
没有固定手势的话,你会养成很不好的习惯,节奏也会很差。
所以---一定要使用脚垫,或者能当脚垫使的玩意儿。??不要用其他任何姿势弹奏!??
你要是想跟PACO De Lucia(似乎是一个弗拉门戈大师)那样弹奏的话那就随你便吧。
不过有时候如果你在吉他店,又不好意思问店主要脚垫的话你还是可以弹一弹的。 我要是你的话我就会要一个脚垫。
大部分人似乎都太过专注于音乐本身而忽略了姿势这个问题了

2. 不修指甲
修指甲看上去不像它事实上那么重要,很多人都不清楚这个问题。你想要指甲保持在很好的形状的话每周要修理两到三次。 很多人都不记得要经常用砂纸修指甲。 最好是每天磨十几秒。 一开始看上去可能有点不靠谱,但是你坚持下来就会知道怎么修指甲,修哪里了,角度,形状等等。??你需要两种指甲锉, 我用P2500, 一般来说用最细的砂纸。 说到底,孰能生巧。 指甲非常重要,好多人觉得修指甲尼玛真烦,然后最后就不弹古典改玩民谣指弹了, 钢琴手开始弹吉他的时候就发现右手留指甲就弹不了钢琴,然后他们就放弃了,咱也无话可说。 还有一些同志留很长的指甲最后断了,练习进度也受影响。 想知道专家怎么修指甲的,请参见 Scott tennant dvd

3.没有谱架和脚蹬
如果你还没有谱架的话快去买一个,最便宜的只要十块钱。 把谱子平放在桌子或者床上其实效率是很低的,而且会引起视力问题。??还有,去弄个脚蹬,或者垫子什么的。 把一套家伙都买齐了试试你会感觉好很多的,看着办吧。

4.不用节拍器(本段由网友gxl117提供译文)
节拍器可以帮助你得到稳定的节奏进行精准的演奏,并建立起良好的时间感。作为一名演奏者,你可能十分讨厌弹错音符或是产生杂音,其实最令人无法忍受的是糟糕的时间感。因此不管是初级,中级还是高级吉它学习者,节拍器都是必备的。可以这么说,如果你从不听拍子,那么你也将永远不会听到人们对你吉它演奏技艺的赞美声。

5. 缺少视奏
既然古典吉他的核心内容是古典音乐,那么你必须要具备良好的视奏能力,才能成为一个好的古典吉他演奏家--没有任何商量的余地。 我敢肯定那些平时都靠记忆来演奏然后每月视奏一次的哥们肯定是选了一条崎岖的道路。? ?坚持每天视奏,跟五线谱上的小蝌蚪做朋友。 那些不知道视奏是古典吉他必不可少的一部分的人都没有弹得很好

6. 弦距,音准, 手感不对
弦距,音准,琴码(手感)。。 所有的东西一开始都要调整好。 过一段时间可能又要调整,琴颈也会弯曲。
每个人的喜好都不一样,对吧。 所以一开始就做好。 貌似从来没有考虑过要把手感调整到最佳的人大部分都放弃古典吉他了

7. 没有一把好的古典吉他
加入你打算用一把一百块钱的雅马哈C40来认真学习古典吉他并且坚持这个爱好的话,我劝你还是好好想想吧。 古典吉他的制作可不是闹着玩的。??(好的)吉他是由全世界的大师们很多年的经验,知识,耐心,技巧凝聚而成的。 你打算认真好好学,那么买把2000美元左右的好琴是你的首要任务(不过译者认为其实500美元就够了,至少买把二手的好琴绰绰有余)。
假如你已经练到世界级的音乐会演奏水平,那你可以买5000美元一把全手工定做的琴了。

8. 急着要弹奏一大把乐曲
有些人就是不知道什么时候该放缓节奏慢慢来。 而且他们对两个教条深信不疑: 1. 弹得快就证明你水平高; 2. 会的乐曲多久表明你比别人好。
如果你热爱音乐的话,那就乐在其中,把一首乐曲弹上一千遍直到完美无瑕。 作为一名演奏家,你就是一个表达着,不要弹出肌肉记忆,要弹出自己的味道(这段我也不太理解请琴友指点)??就算是再轻的音也应该很清楚地听到,每个音都应该有自己的音量和音调(这就是传说中的节奏感了)??如果一成不变的跟着节拍器弹奏你只会听上去像个机器人。??在不影响这个曲调的前提下稍微自由一点。? ? 严肃的演奏家有时候会做出一些改变,如果你有足够知识跟自信的话你甚至可以做一些更改,整首曲子听上去更加好听,就像是你自己作的曲子一样。
当然改的太多就会一团糟,除非你要把它搞成爵士乐。??用心去体会作曲家的情感,去感受那个作品的那个时期。 也可以加一些琶音,圆滑音,泛音,序或者结尾,自己改编一下,别忘了学习一下如何在上下文语境(音境)中使用圆滑音,勾弦打弦,颤音等等,这就是艺术作品的具体表达了。

9. 练习曲练得不够
练习曲及其重要,千万别有轻视练习曲的想法。假如你想短时间内快速提高自己的水准的话, 不但大师们会推荐你弹奏练习曲,我也可以向你保证吧一本练习曲从头弹到尾要好过弹奏一些杂乱的曲子。 就算你想慢慢练,练习曲也是好东西。不过请注意每首练习曲是用来训练具体什么方面的。 不练练习曲的人很难成为名家

10. 缺少即兴演奏和听力训练
没有即兴演奏的话就没有作曲。 即兴演奏在音乐世界里面本身就是一个极度有趣的现象。 所有伟大的古典和爵士音乐家都有过即兴演奏, 作曲另一方面就是即兴演奏按照乐理的延伸,提炼,和组合,然后认真编辑精巧琢磨而成的。? ?要即兴演奏的话你得有好的听力,尝试着去哼出你弹奏的曲调。??你无法否认音乐是以听力为基础的(贝多芬那样的是奇葩,译者注)。多练练自己的听力,你至少能够相对来说听的出一个调子,同时来说掌握节奏也是必须的。? ? 这些必要的技巧会帮助你感受作曲的博大精深,能够感觉到(跟作曲者)心心相印,了解背后的乐理,已经欣赏作品的结构等等。 就算你不想成为一个作曲家, 这些也能有助你成为一个好的演奏家

额外理由: 缺少锻炼弹吉他,尤其是古典吉他会要你身体前倾,结果就导致肩膀疼痛,还有一大堆问题。
瑜伽,坐禅,深呼吸等等都是值得推荐的。
最好每天半小时锻炼。

http://bbs.guitarschina.com/viewthread.php?tid=1293032&page=5#pid18862061

[ 本帖最后由 只信上帝 于 2012-1-15 09:44 编辑 ]

[ 本帖最后由 JiangYing 于 2012-1-17 10:57 编辑 ]
发表于 2012-1-13 06:19:19 | 显示全部楼层
吉他中国抖音
好文章越多越好,楼主辛苦了!
发表于 2012-1-13 09:21:29 | 显示全部楼层
GC视频号
发表于 2012-1-13 10:27:28 | 显示全部楼层
买琴买鼓,就找魔菇
ktar兄辛苦了,翻译得很中国,功力强啊!
发表于 2012-1-13 10:42:17 | 显示全部楼层
发表于 2012-1-13 10:46:07 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 走江湖 于 2012-1-13 10:27 发表
ktar兄辛苦了,翻译得很中国,功力强啊!

嗯,中国也成形容词了,瓷器很强大,呵呵
发表于 2012-1-13 13:00:12 | 显示全部楼层
你让我们看不大懂的人怎么办呢,只能给你拍拍手装着自己圈看懂了的飘过
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原帖由 ktar 于 2012-1-13 05:24 发表
修指甲看上去不像它事实上那么重要,很多人都不清楚这个问题。你想要指甲保持在很好的形状的话每周要修理两到三次。 很多人都不记得要经常用砂纸修指甲。 最好是每天磨十几秒。 一开始看上去可能有点不靠谱,但是你坚持下来就会知道怎么修指甲,修哪里了,角度,形状等等。  你需要两种指甲锉, 我用P2500, 一般来说用最细的砂纸。 说到底,孰能生巧。 指甲非常重要,好多人觉得修指甲尼玛真烦,然后最后就不弹古典改玩民谣指弹了, 钢琴手开始弹吉他的时候就发现右手留指甲就弹不了钢琴,然后他们就放弃了,咱也无话可说。 还有一些同志留很长的指甲最后断了,练习进度也受影响。 想知道专家怎么修指甲的,请参见 Scott tennant dvd

是!指甲打磨得越光滑,拨弦音色就越圆润
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这个要翻译啊
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没翻译的啊?难道学吉他还要学洋文吗?
发表于 2012-1-13 15:08:32 | 显示全部楼层
等翻译,不然你这文章对我来说就白发了
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这就是我了,
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我被枪枪击中......

ktar琴友翻译辛苦,加精华鼓励!
发表于 2012-1-15 09:10:25 | 显示全部楼层
好文! 感谢!~楼主辛苦了
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29楼整理的好,谢谢楼主和任兄
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原帖由 xyduht 于 2012-1-15 10:00 发表
29楼整理的好,谢谢楼主和任兄

姜兄在听音乐会,散场后请他把29楼的东西加帖到1楼(这样方便大家阅读),然后把29楼删了
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[em13]
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感谢辛苦奉献的兄弟们!这个太好了
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感谢楼主的资料和翻译!感谢姜兄的总汇!
对我学吉他很有提示和指导意义!
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好资料。
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好东西!辛苦了。。。。
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原帖由 只信上帝 于 2012-1-15 10:12 发表

姜兄在听音乐会,散场后请他把29楼的东西加帖到1楼(这样方便大家阅读),然后把29楼删了


手机操作不方便,暂时放到2楼,楼主同意的话我们可以统一整理一下,汇总然后销掉重复的回复。
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原帖由 福多嗓 于 2012-1-16 15:11 发表

感谢楼主的资料和翻译!感谢姜兄的总汇!
对我学吉他很有提示和指导意义!


福兄,是任兄干的,和俺没有干系,呵呵。
发表于 2012-1-17 09:11:45 | 显示全部楼层
对了,记得ktar琴友是在加州,不是吗? 我后天去Anaheim,离您远不?
 楼主| 发表于 2012-1-17 09:24:54 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 JiangYing 于 2012-1-17 09:11 发表
对了,记得ktar琴友是在加州,不是吗? 我后天去Anaheim,离您远不?


可以啊那些重复的都删掉好了。

我在北卡。。。。
发表于 2012-1-17 09:37:40 | 显示全部楼层
其实这最有技术含量的活儿人都干了,我只是来打杂滴,汗!
应该感谢楼主的分享和18# gxl117 朋友的译文支持!!
发表于 2012-1-17 09:50:13 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 JiangYing 于 2012-1-17 05:25 发表


福兄,是任兄干的,和俺没有干系,呵呵。

哎吆!我看错了,不好意思。

顺便补上 感谢任兄的总汇!
已收藏。
发表于 2012-1-17 11:04:49 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 ktar 于 2012-1-17 09:24 发表


可以啊那些重复的都删掉好了。

我在北卡。。。。


整理完毕,请检查!再次谢谢Ktar兄和任兄!

北卡是North Carolina吗?
 楼主| 发表于 2012-1-17 11:18:14 | 显示全部楼层
对啊
远着呢,就是一大农村


原帖由 JiangYing 于 2012-1-17 11:04 发表


整理完毕,请检查!再次谢谢Ktar兄和任兄!

北卡是North Carolina吗?
发表于 2012-1-17 11:51:02 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 ktar 于 2012-1-17 11:18 发表
对啊
远着呢,就是一大农村




哈哈,北美就这样,清静,呵呵。。。。。。。
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发表于 2012-9-4 13:07:15 | 显示全部楼层
中年学琴,心态良好,不急不燥,跟着感觉走--------
楼主辛苦了
头像被屏蔽
发表于 2012-9-4 13:23:24 | 显示全部楼层
每次看都会有新发现
发表于 2012-9-4 14:35:14 | 显示全部楼层
  谢谢分享 楼主辛苦了
发表于 2012-9-4 15:18:17 | 显示全部楼层
谢谢各位的劳动,学习ing
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