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国外电吉他测评系列之Ibanez RG350

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发表于 2009-5-11 16:18:56 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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我准备开始一个翻译系列来慢慢介绍很多吉他。把国外对各种吉他的看法带到这里
主要涉及品牌为Ibanez Fender Gibson
全部翻译国外玩家的测评。
测评尽量同时选好的差的。
每个吉他10个测评以上

翻译不求一字一句精准,表达明白意思就好了。。

因为工作量较大,不可能一次翻译完
所以很多测评会在恢复里面。。。

能不能请版主以后帮忙整理

先从Ibanez RG350起
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I own this guitar and have for about 3 years. Got it brand new. It was amazing, for about a year and a half. about that time it started developing problems, mainly with the edgeIII. The bridge would not hold tune if it was moved, limiting me to no dive-bombs, NO USE WHAT-SO-EVER! I eventualy started to leave the bar in the case ! I took it to a tech that has over a decade of experiance he fixed it, and a week later the problems came back. Sent it to Ibanez THREE TIMES and each time the problem came back each time. A friend with a Xiphos had the same problem with his EdgeIII. After learning that, I figured the problem was the bridge, so I put an original Edge (yes, the orignal is better.) in the bridge and it works just fine now ! the Ibanez stock pickups (in my opinion) are horible ! I put a DiMarzio Dactivator in the bridge and it sounded awsome through my Line6 custom Riggs setting ! $300 for th tweaking and it is amazing ! It's very versitile, it can play any style of music. I got a great modern rock tool/chevell tone using the Bridge/midle pickup seltion !
总评3.5 功能4.5 质量3.5 性价5
我拥有这个吉他3年了。买的是新的。买的第1年半都非常棒。然后开始出问题了,主要是因为颤音Edge Pro III。琴桥开始跑音(摇过以后),我不能dive-bombs了(用力下压然后往上提) 摇把变得没有用了!
最后终于我把摇把放到吉他箱子里了!我找了一个有10年经验的吉他专家修理。他修好了,然后一周以后问题又回来了。送到Ibanez保修3次,但是每次问题还是会出现。一个朋友用装备EdgeIII的Xiphos也有这个问题。
所以我觉得问题就在琴桥。所以我换了一个original Edge(ibanez最早的Edge)现在运作的很好了!!吉他上的拾音器很差!! 换了一个DMZ Dactivator到琴桥,然后音色在我的line6 音箱上变得很棒!
花了300美圆改造,然后变得非常好!还很全面,可以胜任各种风格。


This guitar is great, I got if for christmas and I love it. The edge 3 STAYS in tune and the pickups are very smooth. It works great with high distortion to is is very clear and will produce any sound you want. It works great with my Laney amp and sounds just amazing, my friend's dad put it through his fender blues divel and it was even better it sounded like it was a million dollars, it sounds that great no matter what amp it's plugged into. This guitar is amazing for the price and if your looking for a great,INEXPENSIVE(not cheap) guitar than this is the one for you
总评5 功能5 质量5 性价5
这个吉他很好。我在圣诞节得到了它而且很喜欢他。Edge III不会跑音,拾音器也很流畅。在高增益的情况下也工作的很好,很清晰,发出你想要的任何声音。在我的Laney音箱上工作的也很好。我朋友的爸爸用他的fender blues divel音箱音色就更好了。在任何音箱上音色都很好。在这个价位上这个吉他非常完美,不贵(也不便宜)。

I´ve been a fender/ibanez guitarist for a while. Recently I decided to get a new guitar but my budget wasnt hat big to get a satriani or vai model axe (which I hope someday to have). So back to my reallity I tryed this guitar based on its price and for my surprise it felt really really confortable to play. So I jump in an bought it. Now every day I play it I liked it more. With a good amp and effects this guitar has lots to offer if your like me "To get more on my bucks". About how it sounds its really simple: Its up to the player.
总评4 功能4 质量4 性价4.5
我一直用fender ibanez吉他。最近我想买个新的但是钱又不够买joe,vai签名款。回到现实因为价格问题我试了试这个吉他,很让我惊讶这个吉他弹起来很舒服。所以我直接买了它,每天都弹,越来越喜欢。
如果用一个好音箱和效果器,这个吉他可以提供很多好的音色“得到的比我花出的钱多”。 音色到底怎么样:因人而异
发表于 2009-5-11 16:27:12 | 显示全部楼层
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支持LZ的做法,期待更多好琴的评价
 楼主| 发表于 2009-5-11 16:34:06 | 显示全部楼层
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own both the older (1998 Korean, $509) RG350DX and the newer (2008 Indonesian, $399) RG350DX. To compare the two is not fair because of the price and hardware are drastically different. I'll try to stick to just the newer model. This is a entry-to-mid level guitar. It has phenomenal features for a entry level guitar. Awesome looks, serviceable Edge III trem (some question of reliability, I've had no issues), and decent pickups. The neck and fret finish is the real focus here. Now, I would expect nothing but the finest from Ibanez, but you can't get the action as low as a Japanese or Korean RG without some minor buzz. Honestly, it's a $400 guitar. Did you expect perfection? Some minor flaws in the finish (very minor on headstock corner) but the white guitar/pearl white pickguard is a beautiful combo that stands out. Overall, the RG350DX is a good value for the beginning guitar player. With a pickup upgrade and a professional fret finish you will have yourself a great value that rivals $1000 guitars.
总评3 功能4.5 质量2 性价3
有老的很新的RG350(韩产,印尼产)把这2个吉他拿来对比很不公平,因为很多硬件都不一样。我现在测评新的。
这是一个中低端的吉他。作为新手琴它有很多功能。漂亮,还行的Edge III颤音(有人质疑edgeIII的质量,我觉得还好没有什么问题)很不错的拾音器。
琴颈和品丝是主要问题。我希望得到ibanez的优质工艺,但是这个吉他弦距在不能调的和日产,韩产的琴一样低,除非微弱打品。
现实一点,这个才400美圆。你还想要什么?做工有点小问题,但是很白色护板和吉他的组合很漂亮。
总体来说,RG350是一个性价比不错的新手琴。如果升级拾音器和专业的品丝做工,这个吉他就和1000多美元的吉他一样


This guitar is good for any style of play. Tha neck is smooth from the box and the finish is stunning. the only setback that I had was the tremelo. When I needed to switch tunings for different songs it was like a task to escape hell. So I locked it and I have no more problems. And the sustain increases when the bridge is locked . I guess it has something to do with the springs. but anyone who wants a white metal guitar they should choose this on. IBANEZ ROCKS!!!
总评4 功能4.5 质量4 性价4.5
这个吉他适应各种风格。琴颈和做工都很好。唯一不爽的是颤音系统。当我要为不同的歌降调的时候。这个工作需要花很长时间。所以我就把琴桥锁了(就是只能下压)
锁了以后延音也长了点。想要金属琴的都该选这个.
 楼主| 发表于 2009-5-11 16:44:24 | 显示全部楼层
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this guitar has nice looks and a fast, smooth neck. but it stops there. the pickups are some of the weakest ive ever played on. there very bland and there not smooth at all. but what sucks even more than the pickups is the floyd Rose. the edge pro is good, but this one is terrible. its extremely lame and you can't wammy it at all with out screwing up the tunning. i've had to get mine fixed so many times its not even worth it. The screws bust out of the wooden base on the back of the guitar vry easily. if i were you, I would get an ESP M-400 or pay a little more and get a Jackson, trust me this guitar makes you want to punch yourself in the face. the Floyd rose is crap.
总评2.5 功能4.5 质量1.5 性价3
这个吉他看起来很好,琴颈狠快。但是等等,拾音器是我用过最弱的。音色非常温和而且一点也不圆滑。不这个更sb的是颤音系统。Edge Pro很好,但是这个巨差(Edge pro III)。超烂,你根本不能摇,会跑音。
我尝试修理很多次,没有用也不值得。吉他后面的螺丝很容易出来。如果我是你,我会买个ESP M-400或者再多花点钱买Jackson,相信我这个吉他会让你有打自己脸的冲动!颤音太烂了。
 楼主| 发表于 2009-5-11 16:52:40 | 显示全部楼层
This guitar would be great, a maple fretboard, nice Wizard II, but the Edge III Trem is enough reason to avoid this altogether. While the Edge III may work while it lasts, if you are a heavy trem user, the trem's lifespan is reduced to a measly few months. This bridge is simply an inferior product, and the manufacture quality is simply not there. You're better off buying an Prestige model with the Edge Pro. Ibanez makes the best floating trems, but they put them on Prestige models (although I hear ZR is very good). Avoid this guitar. I have owned it, and I sold it to get money for an even better guitar - the Ibanez RG 20th Anniversary. Again, sav up for a Prestige. Oh, and I'm not too fond of the pickups on this either.
总评2.5 功能3 质量3 性价2
这个琴本来可以很好,枫树指板,很好的Wizard II琴颈。但是Edge III毁了这一切。 Edge III在完好无损的情况下还不错,但是如果你用摇把很厉害,这个颤音的寿命估计就几个月。
Edge III琴桥简单来说就是劣质产品。没做工可言。你最好买个日产Prestige有Edge Pro。Ibanez生产最好的琴桥,但是只用在日产产品上(虽然我听说ZR很好)
不要买这个吉他。我有一个,然后卖了。买了个更好的吉他----RG 20年纪念版(RG550)。再次重申,存钱买日产Prestige
还有拾音器也一般
发表于 2009-5-11 17:04:45 | 显示全部楼层
纯顶,我也有吧350
发表于 2009-5-11 17:31:48 | 显示全部楼层
估计老外手劲都大,看VAI的演出看多了,或许是新琴颤音系统还没调节好就拿来狠命的摇的缘故,导致毁坏的更快,所以摇把被骂的最厉害。咱们国内的朋友情感比较含蓄所以普遍摇把用的少,另外不舍的摇或者很小心的摇(哈哈,我就是),年前我也被他白色的外表给打动了立马买下,6个多月的使用倒是觉得这琴其他都不错,就是拾音器比高型号琴稍差点。另外,我觉得IBANEZ RG320确实比350好,看他的金属件就不一样。320的金属件透着高档货的味道,肯定耐用!
 楼主| 发表于 2009-5-11 17:58:23 | 显示全部楼层
vai肯定是摧残琴桥no.1乐手
发表于 2009-5-11 18:14:41 | 显示全部楼层
发表于 2009-5-11 22:51:33 | 显示全部楼层
350日本内销的版本非常漂亮。。。
 楼主| 发表于 2009-5-12 07:16:26 | 显示全部楼层
350有内销版?不一样?
发点图来
发表于 2009-5-12 09:00:48 | 显示全部楼层
楼主的做法可以用两个字形容:伟大
发表于 2009-5-12 09:39:24 | 显示全部楼层
顶楼主!
发表于 2009-5-12 09:57:24 | 显示全部楼层
RG350日本产还是很不错的
我用过,感觉音色,颤音系统,手感,做工在同价位基础上都是一流的
赞一个
发表于 2009-5-12 11:15:28 | 显示全部楼层
400刀的琴花了300刀来改造啊。。。
发表于 2009-5-12 11:26:01 | 显示全部楼层
长见识了
 楼主| 发表于 2009-5-12 18:53:37 | 显示全部楼层
下个该翻译什么琴的测评呢
提点意见~
发表于 2009-5-12 19:02:07 | 显示全部楼层
楼主好银啊
发表于 2009-5-12 19:17:50 | 显示全部楼层
350内销版是论坛上一个朋友发的 有3种颜色 IBZ日本官网上没有。。。
发表于 2009-5-12 19:19:03 | 显示全部楼层
对S系列很感兴趣 LZ找找~
 楼主| 发表于 2009-5-12 19:31:29 | 显示全部楼层
下个测评做S320 S470 S520
一起吧
3个吉他基本一样
发表于 2009-5-12 20:13:21 | 显示全部楼层
恩 我想知道RG和S系列的具体区别 呵呵。。。
 楼主| 发表于 2009-5-12 20:28:05 | 显示全部楼层
大致就是
1:轻
2:薄
3:ZR颤音
4:像JS一样的琴体
发表于 2009-5-12 22:45:05 | 显示全部楼层
和RG系列比哪种性价比高?更适合新手?
发表于 2009-5-13 01:03:58 | 显示全部楼层
这些老外水平也一般呐,他们把EDGE III短期用坏的原因都是因为不会合理用,估计用Edge Pro都悬。。。

另外日产RG的Edge Pro不是Ibanez自己生产的,是Gotoh。
 楼主| 发表于 2009-5-13 06:03:43 | 显示全部楼层
不知道EdgeIII不过我的亲身经历是LO-TRS不经用。。。

另外。。“合理使用”很主观。。有些歌就是需要大量摇把狠狠的摇。。。还有啸叫diving bomb...如果喜欢这些东西,你也不能埋怨他们用的太过厉害
发表于 2009-6-5 19:57:11 | 显示全部楼层
我找到内销版本的RG350了 实物很漂亮。。。

http://www.ibanez.co.jp/products ... 1&series_id=193
发表于 2009-6-5 21:19:05 | 显示全部楼层
不知道香港TOMLEE琴行销售的是那种(IBANEZ RG350)????
只有印尼产的吗????
还有~~高手们~~我想请问一下~~~~日产和别的有什么不一样~~~如何区分

[ 本帖最后由 lovefate 于 2009-6-5 21:31 编辑 ]
发表于 2009-6-5 21:54:32 | 显示全部楼层

这个坛子真是长见识
好期待LZ下次的测评翻译
发表于 2009-6-11 17:14:40 | 显示全部楼层
相当不错
发表于 2009-6-11 17:26:32 | 显示全部楼层
继续啊!
发表于 2009-8-11 13:39:53 | 显示全部楼层
哇 350的摇把真这么弱?是真的么?正打算买那 这不叫人担心  有用过再评价下吧
 楼主| 发表于 2009-8-11 14:14:06 | 显示全部楼层
如果用的不是很厉害,那么坚持3年还是没有问题的。

不过琴桥只要一坏。。就可以把你弄崩溃。。
发表于 2009-8-11 14:47:33 | 显示全部楼层
老外普遍认为除了拾音器和桥以外都挺好的了
发表于 2009-8-11 14:50:58 | 显示全部楼层
RG350QM内销的贴面真漂亮啊
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发表于 2009-8-12 12:45:08 | 显示全部楼层
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发表于 2009-8-19 15:36:19 | 显示全部楼层
关注你这个帖子。稍后会帮你编辑
 楼主| 发表于 2009-8-19 18:55:32 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 我会弹吉他 于 2009-8-19 13:49 发表
顶!下次评测一下印尼产s系列吧


http://bbs.guitarschina.com/viewthread.php?tid=816491&highlight=

以前翻译过~~~
发表于 2009-8-19 19:07:22 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 stevevai1983 于 2009-8-11 14:14 发表
如果用的不是很厉害,那么坚持3年还是没有问题的。

不过琴桥只要一坏。。就可以把你弄崩溃。。

用的不厉害才能坚持3年      真的假的啊    我也考虑rg350 呢 别吓我啊  我可不像花3000多大元买一把只能用3年的琴
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