新物件：Line 6 POD HD500 “X”
http://player.youku.com/player.php/sid/XNTgxNDE3NzY4/v.swf目前情况不明，官方没有介绍……
http://player.youku.com/player.php/sid/XNTgxNjkwNDU2/v.swf
补一个官方简介，另外感谢9楼同学提供的官网网址 http://line6.com/podhd500x/
[ 本帖最后由 爱管闲事的鲨鱼 于 2013-7-11 16:38 编辑 ] 有什么特别吗 有个和hd500的对比就好了 查了一下，好像重点是加了一块dsp芯片来加强处理能力，其他还有一些小改动，踏板这次还有led灯。 换汤不换药。。 增加一块DSP，解决以往双链或同时运行效果太多DSP资源不足的限制。
增强了运算能力也多了一份IR支持的可能性。
目前来看，笑的是老HD500用户。但若支持了IR，笑的是所有合成用户。 这个提升是在不大，话说HD系列也出了很久了 怎么还没新产品代替呢？ http://l6c.scdn.line6.net/data/6/0a06434ca71151ddcea4df801/image/gif/file_r15542.gif
官网有介绍，详见：http://line6.com/podhd500x/ 加强了运算能力？音质音色啥的没变化？那不就是科技已换壳为本吗，换汤不换药。 按我看来，应该是属于升级版或者小改款，音色算法还是一样的，就是增强了DSP和换了踏钉，其他基本都差不多
弱弱问上面的朋友，麻烦解释下IR IR的支持暂时没看到，估计也不会有吧，要是支持应该会在详细里面交待。 http://www.lvzhou.net/bbs/viewthread.php?tid=69241&extra=我已经做出来大概对比了
Line6 hd500x和hd500简要对比
hd500x
hd500音箱模拟
Bogner Uberschall
Divided by 13 JRT 9/15
Dr. Z Route 66
ENGL Fireball 100
Fender Bassman ("Normal" channel)
Fender Bassman ("Bright" channel)
Fender Blackface Deluxe Reverb ("Normal" channel)
Fender Blackface Deluxe Reverb ("Vibrato" channel)
Fender Twin Reverb (“Normal” channel with “Bright” switch off)
Fender Twin Reverb ("Vibrato" channel with “Bright” switch on)
Gibson EH-185
Hiwatt Custom 100 (DR103)
Line 6 Doom
Line 6 Epic
Line 6 Elektrik
Marshall JCM-800 (2204)
Marshall JTM-45 MkII ("Bright" channel)
Marshall JTM-45 MkII ("Normal" channel)
Marshall “Plexi” 1959 Super Lead ("Normal" channel)
Marshall “Plexi” 1959 Super Lead ("Bright" channel)
Mesa/Boogie Dual Rectifier嬀猀椀稀攀=10.5000pt]
Park 75 ("Bright" channel)
Park 75 ("Normal" channel)
Soldano SLO100(“Clean”)
Soldano SLO100 (“Crunch”)
Soldano SLO100 (“Overdrive”)
Supro S6616
Vox AC-15
Vox AC-30 (Top Boost)
Ampeg B-15NF Portaflex嬀猀椀稀攀=10.5000pt]
Ampeg B-15NF Portaflex嬀猀椀稀攀=10.5000pt]
Bogner Uberschall
Divided by 13 JRT 9/15
Dr. Z Route 66
ENGL Fireball 100
Fender Bassman ("Normal" channel)
Fender Bassman ("Bright" channel)
Fender Blackface Deluxe Reverb ("Normal" channel)
Fender Blackface Deluxe Reverb ("Vibrato" channel)
Fender Twin Reverb (“Normal” channel with “Bright” switch off)
Fender Twin Reverb ("Vibrato" channel with “Bright” switch on)
Gibson EH-185
Hiwatt Custom 100 (DR103)
Line 6 Doom**
Line 6 Epic**
Marshall JCM-800 (2204)
Marshall JTM-45 MkII ("Bright" channel)
Marshall JTM-45 MkII ("Normal" channel)
Marshall “Plexi” 1959 Super Lead ("Normal" channel)
Marshall “Plexi” 1959 Super Lead ("Bright" channel)
Mesa/Boogie Dual Rectifier嬀猀椀稀攀=10.5000pt]
Park 75 ("Bright" channel)
Park 75 ("Normal" channel)
Soldano SLO100**
Supro S6616
Vox AC-15
Vox AC-30 (Top Boost
单块模拟
Dynamics
Noise Gate
Hard Gate
Tube Comp
Red Comp
Blue Comp
Vetta Comp
Boost Comp
Distortion
Tube Drive
Screamer
Overdrive
Classic Dist
Heavy Dist
Color Drive
Buzz Saw
Facial Fuzz
Jumbo Fuzz
Fuzz Pi
Jet Fuzz
Line 6 Drive
Line 6 Distortion
Sub Octave Fuzz
Octave Fuzz
Pitch/Mod
Bass Octaver
Pitch Glide
Smart Harmony
Pattern Tremolo
Panner
Bias Tremolo
Opto Tremolo
Script Phase
Panned Phaser
Barberpole Phaser
Dual Phaser
U-Vibe
Phaser
Pitch Vibrato
Dimension
Analog Chorus
Tri Chorus
Analog Flanger
Jet Flanger
AC Flanger
80A Flanger
Frequency Shifter
Ring Modulator
Rotary Drum
Rotary Drum+Horn
Filter
Voice Box
V-Tron
Q Filter
Vocoder
Seeker
Obi Wah
Tron Up/Down
Throbber
Slow Filter
Spin Cycle
Comet Trails
Octisynth
Synth O Matic
Attack Synth
Synth String
Growler
EQ
Graphic EQ
Parametric EQ
Studio EQ
4 Band Shift EQ
Mid Focus EQ
Vintage Pre
Delay
Ping Pong
Dynamic Delay
Stereo Delay
Digital Delay
Dig Delay w/ Mod
Reverse
Lo Res Delay
Tube Echo
Tape Echo
Sweep Echo
Echo Platter
Analog W/Mod
Analog Echo
Auto-Volume Echo
Multi-Head
Wah/Vol
Fassel
Weeper
Custom Chrome
Vetta Wah
Throaty
Conductor
Colorful
Volume
Pan
Reverb
Plate
Room
Chamber
Hall
Echo
Tile
Cave
Ducking
Octo
Spring
‘63 Spring
Particle Verb
4 Band Shift EQ
'63 Spring
Attack Synth
Bass Octaver
Blue Comp
Blue Comp Treb
Boost Comp
Buzz Saw
Classic Distortion
Color Drive
Dimension
Facial Fuzz
Frequency Shifter
Fuzz Pi
Graphic EQ
Growler
x
Hard Gate
Heavy Distortion
Jet Fuzz
Jumbo Fuzz
Line 6 Distortion
Line 6 Drive
Mid Focus EQ
Octave Fuzz
Octisynth
Overdrive
Parametric EQ
Particle Verb
Pitch Glide
Q Filter
Red Comp
Ring Modulator
Rotary Drum
Rotary Drum & Horn
Screamer
Slow Filter
Smart Harmony
Spring
Studio EQ
Sub Octave Fuzz
Synth String
Synth-O-Matic
Tron Down
Tron Up
Tube Drive
Vetta Comp
Vetta Juice
V-Tron
Vintage Preamp
MODS
Analog Chorus
Analog Flanger
Barberpole Phaser
Bias Trem
Dual Phaser
Obi Wah
Opto Trem
Panned Phaser
Panner
Pattern Tremolo
Phaser
Pitch Vibrato
Script Phase
Seeker
Spin Cycle
Throbber
U-Vibe
Voice Box
DELAYS
Analog Echo
Analog with Mod
Auto Volume Echo
Digital Delay
Digital Delay with Mod
Dynamic Delay
Echo Platter
Echo Platter Studio
Lo Res Delay
Multi-head Delay
Ping Pong
Reverse Delay
Stereo Delay
Sweep Echo
Sweep Echo Studio
Tape Echo
Tape Echo Studio
Tube Echo
Tube Echo Studio
REVERBS
Cave
Chamber
Ducking
Echo
Hall
Octo
Plate
Room
Tile
WAHS
Chrome
Chrome Custom
Colorful
Conductor
Fassel
Throaty
Vetta Wah
Weeper
[ 本帖最后由 绿洲琴行 于 2013-7-11 16:29 编辑 ] 应该是dsp芯片的添加，我以前就开2个箱头1个od 1个延时 1个wah就给我说请释放dsp内存了。刚才看了下国外hd500已经下架了，hd500x国外报价500刀
[ 本帖最后由 绿洲琴行 于 2013-7-11 16:33 编辑 ] 下个月就可以拿到货了 Line6 hd500x和hd500简要对比
hd500x
hd500音箱模拟
Bogner® Uberschall
Divided by 13 JRT 9/15
Dr. Z® Route 66
ENGL® Fireball 100
Fender® Bassman® ("Normal" channel)
Fender® Bassman® ("Bright" channel)
Fender® Blackface Deluxe Reverb® ("Normal" channel)
Fender® Blackface Deluxe Reverb® ("Vibrato" channel)
Fender® Twin Reverb® (“Normal” channel with “Bright” switch off)
Fender® Twin Reverb® ("Vibrato" channel with “Bright” switch on)
Gibson® EH-185
Hiwatt® Custom 100 (DR103)
Line 6 Doom
Line 6 Epic
Line 6 Elektrik
Marshall® JCM-800 (2204)
Marshall® JTM-45 MkII ("Bright" channel)
Marshall® JTM-45 MkII ("Normal" channel)
Marshall® “Plexi” 1959 Super Lead ("Normal" channel)
Marshall® “Plexi” 1959 Super Lead ("Bright" channel)
Mesa/Boogie® Dual Rectifier®
Park 75 ("Bright" channel)
Park 75 ("Normal" channel)
Soldano® SLO100(“Clean”)
Soldano® SLO100 (“Crunch”)
Soldano® SLO100 (“Overdrive”)
Supro® S6616
Vox® AC-15
Vox® AC-30 (Top Boost)
Ampeg® B-15NF Portaflex®
Ampeg® B-15NF Portaflex®
Bogner® Uberschall
Divided by 13 JRT 9/15
Dr. Z® Route 66
ENGL® Fireball 100
Fender® Bassman® ("Normal" channel)
Fender® Bassman® ("Bright" channel)
Fender® Blackface Deluxe Reverb® ("Normal" channel)
Fender® Blackface Deluxe Reverb® ("Vibrato" channel)
Fender® Twin Reverb® (“Normal” channel with “Bright” switch off)
Fender® Twin Reverb® ("Vibrato" channel with “Bright” switch on)
Gibson® EH-185
Hiwatt® Custom 100 (DR103)
Line 6 Doom**
Line 6 Epic**
Marshall® JCM-800 (2204)
Marshall® JTM-45 MkII ("Bright" channel)
Marshall® JTM-45 MkII ("Normal" channel)
Marshall® “Plexi” 1959 Super Lead ("Normal" channel)
Marshall® “Plexi” 1959 Super Lead ("Bright" channel)
Mesa/Boogie® Dual Rectifier®
Park 75 ("Bright" channel)
Park 75 ("Normal" channel)
Soldano® SLO100**
Supro® S6616
Vox® AC-15
Vox® AC-30 (Top Boost
单块模拟
Dynamics
Noise Gate
Hard Gate
Tube Comp
Red Comp
Blue Comp
Vetta Comp
Boost Comp
Distortion
Tube Drive
Screamer
Overdrive
Classic Dist
Heavy Dist
Color Drive
Buzz Saw
Facial Fuzz
Jumbo Fuzz
Fuzz Pi
Jet Fuzz
Line 6 Drive
Line 6 Distortion
Sub Octave Fuzz
Octave Fuzz
Pitch/Mod
Bass Octaver
Pitch Glide
Smart Harmony
Pattern Tremolo
Panner
Bias Tremolo
Opto Tremolo
Script Phase
Panned Phaser
Barberpole Phaser
Dual Phaser
U-Vibe
Phaser
Pitch Vibrato
Dimension
Analog Chorus
Tri Chorus
Analog Flanger
Jet Flanger
AC Flanger
80A Flanger
Frequency Shifter
Ring Modulator
Rotary Drum
Rotary Drum+Horn
Filter
Voice Box
V-Tron
Q Filter
Vocoder
Seeker
Obi Wah
Tron Up/Down
Throbber
Slow Filter
Spin Cycle
Comet Trails
Octisynth
Synth O Matic
Attack Synth
Synth String
Growler
EQ
Graphic EQ
Parametric EQ
Studio EQ
4 Band Shift EQ
Mid Focus EQ
Vintage Pre
Delay
Ping Pong
Dynamic Delay
Stereo Delay
Digital Delay
Dig Delay w/ Mod
Reverse
Lo Res Delay
Tube Echo
Tape Echo
Sweep Echo
Echo Platter
Analog W/Mod
Analog Echo
Auto-Volume Echo
Multi-Head
Wah/Vol
Fassel
Weeper
Custom Chrome
Vetta Wah
Throaty
Conductor
Colorful
Volume
Pan
Reverb
Plate
Room
Chamber
Hall
Echo
Tile
Cave
Ducking
Octo
Spring
‘63 Spring
Particle Verb
4 Band Shift EQ
'63 Spring
Attack Synth
Bass Octaver
Blue Comp
Blue Comp Treb
Boost Comp
Buzz Saw
Classic Distortion
Color Drive
Dimension
Facial Fuzz
Frequency Shifter
Fuzz Pi
Graphic EQ
Growler
x
Hard Gate
Heavy Distortion
Jet Fuzz
Jumbo Fuzz
Line 6 Distortion
Line 6 Drive
Mid Focus EQ
Octave Fuzz
Octisynth
Overdrive
Parametric EQ
Particle Verb
Pitch Glide
Q Filter
Red Comp
Ring Modulator
Rotary Drum
Rotary Drum & Horn
Screamer
Slow Filter
Smart Harmony
Spring
Studio EQ
Sub Octave Fuzz
Synth String
Synth-O-Matic
Tron Down
Tron Up
Tube Drive
Vetta Comp
Vetta Juice
V-Tron
Vintage Preamp
MODS
Analog Chorus
Analog Flanger
Barberpole Phaser
Bias Trem
Dual Phaser
Obi Wah
Opto Trem
Panned Phaser
Panner
Pattern Tremolo
Phaser
Pitch Vibrato
Script Phase
Seeker
Spin Cycle
Throbber
U-Vibe
Voice Box
DELAYS
Analog Echo
Analog with Mod
Auto Volume Echo
Digital Delay
Digital Delay with Mod
Dynamic Delay
Echo Platter
Echo Platter Studio
Lo Res Delay
Multi-head Delay
Ping Pong
Reverse Delay
Stereo Delay
Sweep Echo
Sweep Echo Studio
Tape Echo
Tape Echo Studio
Tube Echo
Tube Echo Studio
REVERBS
Cave
Chamber
Ducking
Echo
Hall
Octo
Plate
Room
Tile
WAHS
Chrome
Chrome Custom
Colorful
Conductor
Fassel
Throaty
Vetta Wah
Weeper
接口方面基本相同
[ 本帖最后由 绿洲琴行 于 2013-7-17 11:35 编辑 ]
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下月何时能到货.售价如何? 下月何时到货 价格如何呵呵 结合十分有限基本忘光的专业知识...所谓ir是脉冲响应的意思吧........ 5s 就目前的市场格局来看 Line6不可能开放IR 个人觉得。就算双链音色能保持不变了。 我是500用户。双链时候明显声音觉得和单连用同样效果不同 如果line6支持ir，我觉得kpa这种设备都可以下课了。。。。试过用guitar rig做前级，然后电脑上挂个ir，声音真的是可以做很棒的录音了。
也用过hd500做前级，然后电脑上挂ir，声音也是棒极了。
如果用guitar rig和line6不挂ir，用自身的箱体模拟，声音要差一些。
目前我觉得，其实不管用不用ir，声音是不一样，用ir的感觉是更好，不需要调节太多感觉音色就已经很棒了，稍微修饰一下挂eq什么的就可以了，但是我觉得不用ir一样可以做出很帮的混音，但这个需要有稍微深一些的混音功底。
我觉得电吉他这个乐器本来动态就差的要命，5万元的gibson，5万元的fender，我觉得单从动态响应来看，都比不上一支500元的箱琴。
特别是metal这种类型的音乐，失真度越大，动态就越差，对声卡这种录音设备的要求就越高，但对吉他本身的要求却没有那么的高。
喜欢用line6的用户我觉得有很大比例是因为它的higain音色做的好，我也是其中之一，对higain要求越高，对吉他的品质没有那么的重要，需要出好声，其实也不需要买太发烧的吉他。
hd系列这次我觉得higain音色还是和x3差不多，当然我感觉比x3还是要有提升，但对比x3提升更大的不是higain的箱摸，是fender类型这种clean箱摸做的要比x3好多了。
hd500x和hd500应该声音是没差别的，差别在dsp运算可以更多的模拟，这个如果要用双信号链肯定是有好处的，如果我要用hd500录音，就算我挂满了8个单块，2个箱体模拟，录好了以后我还是要在daw上来挂一些插件，一般挂的最多的是eq。
我感觉line6这次的hd系列比x3要复杂一些
line6的eq，我觉得做的不行。。。。。不应该用百分比啊。。。。。至少应该给个频率刻度吧。。。。
我经常在hd500上挂eq的时候要挂上2个到4个，有时候挂了4个eq，声音还是不对劲，为什么我会挂4个，是因为line6上我找不到合适的多段压缩用，只有那么一到两个eq是有频率刻度的。。。。要是有合适的多段eq，我还能空闲出2到3个单块模块可以开其他效果让dsp运算呢。
hd500x如果把eq和压缩这个部分做好，同时又能挂上更多的单块来修饰音色。那我觉得就太棒了，不过我觉得500x应该还做不到这样的。。。。
其实现在电脑上的软件效果器和ir脉冲的效果已经相当不错了，去听听ForTiorI吧。 这个国内啥时候有货啊
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