新物件：Line 6 POD HD500 “X”

爱管闲事的鲨鱼

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目前情况不明，官方没有介绍……

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补一个官方简介，另外感谢9楼同学提供的官网网址 http://line6.com/podhd500x/

[ 本帖最后由 爱管闲事的鲨鱼 于 2013-7-11 16:38 编辑 ]

变气球

有什么特别吗

nw1022

有个和hd500的对比就好了

omgoodness

查了一下，好像重点是加了一块dsp芯片来加强处理能力，其他还有一些小改动，踏板这次还有led灯。

神七出舱

换汤不换药。。

保持联系

增加一块DSP，解决以往双链或同时运行效果太多DSP资源不足的限制。

增强了运算能力也多了一份IR支持的可能性。

目前来看，笑的是老HD500用户。但若支持了IR，笑的是所有合成用户。

dongdelan

这个提升是在不大，话说HD系列也出了很久了 怎么还没新产品代替呢？

slayer114

官网有介绍，详见：http://line6.com/podhd500x/

bloodcomet

加强了运算能力？音质音色啥的没变化？那不就是科技已换壳为本吗，换汤不换药。

yongpenglv

按我看来，应该是属于升级版或者小改款，音色算法还是一样的，就是增强了DSP和换了踏钉，其他基本都差不多


弱弱问上面的朋友，麻烦解释下IR

omgoodness

IR的支持暂时没看到，估计也不会有吧，要是支持应该会在详细里面交待。

绿洲琴行

http://www.lvzhou.net/bbs/viewthread.php?tid=69241&extra=我已经做出来大概对比了

Line6 hd500x和hd500简要对比 hd500x hd500 音箱模拟 Bogner Uberschall Divided by 13 JRT 9/15 Dr. Z Route 66 ENGL Fireball 100 Fender Bassman ("Normal" channel) Fender Bassman ("Bright" channel) Fender Blackface Deluxe Reverb ("Normal" channel) Fender Blackface Deluxe Reverb ("Vibrato" channel) Fender Twin Reverb (“Normal” channel with “Bright” switch off) Fender Twin Reverb ("Vibrato" channel with “Bright” switch on) Gibson EH-185 Hiwatt Custom 100 (DR103) Line 6 Doom Line 6 Epic Line 6 Elektrik Marshall JCM-800 (2204) Marshall JTM-45 MkII ("Bright" channel) Marshall JTM-45 MkII ("Normal" channel) Marshall “Plexi” 1959 Super Lead ("Normal" channel) Marshall “Plexi” 1959 Super Lead ("Bright" channel) Mesa/Boogie Dual Rectifier嬀猀椀稀攀=10.5000pt] Park 75 ("Bright" channel) Park 75 ("Normal" channel) Soldano SLO100(“Clean”) Soldano SLO100 (“Crunch”) Soldano SLO100 (“Overdrive”) Supro S6616 Vox AC-15 Vox AC-30 (Top Boost) Ampeg B-15NF Portaflex嬀猀椀稀攀=10.5000pt] Ampeg B-15NF Portaflex嬀猀椀稀攀=10.5000pt] Bogner Uberschall Divided by 13 JRT 9/15 Dr. Z Route 66 ENGL Fireball 100 Fender Bassman ("Normal" channel) Fender Bassman ("Bright" channel) Fender Blackface Deluxe Reverb ("Normal" channel) Fender Blackface Deluxe Reverb ("Vibrato" channel) Fender Twin Reverb (“Normal” channel with “Bright” switch off) Fender Twin Reverb ("Vibrato" channel with “Bright” switch on) Gibson EH-185 Hiwatt Custom 100 (DR103) Line 6 Doom** Line 6 Epic** Marshall JCM-800 (2204) Marshall JTM-45 MkII ("Bright" channel) Marshall JTM-45 MkII ("Normal" channel) Marshall “Plexi” 1959 Super Lead ("Normal" channel) Marshall “Plexi” 1959 Super Lead ("Bright" channel) Mesa/Boogie Dual Rectifier嬀猀椀稀攀=10.5000pt] Park 75 ("Bright" channel) Park 75 ("Normal" channel) Soldano SLO100** Supro S6616 Vox AC-15 Vox AC-30 (Top Boost 单块模拟 Dynamics Noise Gate Hard Gate Tube Comp Red Comp Blue Comp Vetta Comp Boost Comp Distortion Tube Drive Screamer Overdrive Classic Dist Heavy Dist Color Drive Buzz Saw Facial Fuzz Jumbo Fuzz Fuzz Pi Jet Fuzz Line 6 Drive Line 6 Distortion Sub Octave Fuzz Octave Fuzz Pitch/Mod Bass Octaver Pitch Glide Smart Harmony Pattern Tremolo Panner Bias Tremolo Opto Tremolo Script Phase Panned Phaser Barberpole Phaser Dual Phaser U-Vibe Phaser Pitch Vibrato Dimension Analog Chorus Tri Chorus Analog Flanger Jet Flanger AC Flanger 80A Flanger Frequency Shifter Ring Modulator Rotary Drum Rotary Drum+Horn Filter Voice Box V-Tron Q Filter Vocoder Seeker Obi Wah Tron Up/Down Throbber Slow Filter Spin Cycle Comet Trails Octisynth Synth O Matic Attack Synth Synth String Growler EQ Graphic EQ Parametric EQ Studio EQ 4 Band Shift EQ Mid Focus EQ Vintage Pre Delay Ping Pong Dynamic Delay Stereo Delay Digital Delay Dig Delay w/ Mod Reverse Lo Res Delay Tube Echo Tape Echo Sweep Echo Echo Platter Analog W/Mod Analog Echo Auto-Volume Echo Multi-Head Wah/Vol Fassel Weeper Custom Chrome Vetta Wah Throaty Conductor Colorful Volume Pan Reverb Plate Room Chamber Hall Echo Tile Cave Ducking Octo Spring ‘63 Spring Particle Verb 4 Band Shift EQ '63 Spring Attack Synth Bass Octaver Blue Comp Blue Comp Treb Boost Comp Buzz Saw Classic Distortion Color Drive Dimension Facial Fuzz Frequency Shifter Fuzz Pi Graphic EQ Growler x Hard Gate Heavy Distortion Jet Fuzz Jumbo Fuzz Line 6 Distortion Line 6 Drive Mid Focus EQ Octave Fuzz Octisynth Overdrive Parametric EQ Particle Verb Pitch Glide Q Filter Red Comp Ring Modulator Rotary Drum Rotary Drum & Horn Screamer Slow Filter Smart Harmony Spring Studio EQ Sub Octave Fuzz Synth String Synth-O-Matic Tron Down Tron Up Tube Drive Vetta Comp Vetta Juice V-Tron Vintage Preamp MODS Analog Chorus Analog Flanger Barberpole Phaser Bias Trem Dual Phaser Obi Wah Opto Trem Panned Phaser Panner Pattern Tremolo Phaser Pitch Vibrato Script Phase Seeker Spin Cycle Throbber U-Vibe Voice Box DELAYS Analog Echo Analog with Mod Auto Volume Echo Digital Delay Digital Delay with Mod Dynamic Delay Echo Platter Echo Platter Studio Lo Res Delay Multi-head Delay Ping Pong Reverse Delay Stereo Delay Sweep Echo Sweep Echo Studio Tape Echo Tape Echo Studio Tube Echo Tube Echo Studio REVERBS Cave Chamber Ducking Echo Hall Octo Plate Room Tile WAHS Chrome Chrome Custom Colorful Conductor Fassel Throaty Vetta Wah Weeper

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绿洲琴行

应该是dsp芯片的添加，我以前就开2个箱头1个od 1个延时 1个wah就给我说请释放dsp内存了。刚才看了下国外hd500已经下架了，hd500x国外报价500刀

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绿洲琴行

下个月就可以拿到货了

绿洲琴行

Line6   hd500x  和  hd500简要对比

	hd500x	hd500
音箱模拟	Bogner® Uberschall Divided by 13 JRT 9/15 Dr. Z® Route 66 ENGL® Fireball 100 Fender® Bassman® ("Normal" channel) Fender® Bassman® ("Bright" channel) Fender® Blackface Deluxe Reverb® ("Normal" channel) Fender® Blackface Deluxe Reverb® ("Vibrato" channel) Fender® Twin Reverb® (“Normal” channel with “Bright” switch off) Fender® Twin Reverb® ("Vibrato" channel with “Bright” switch on) Gibson® EH-185 Hiwatt® Custom 100 (DR103) Line 6 Doom Line 6 Epic Line 6 Elektrik Marshall® JCM-800 (2204) Marshall® JTM-45 MkII ("Bright" channel) Marshall® JTM-45 MkII ("Normal" channel) Marshall® “Plexi” 1959 Super Lead ("Normal" channel) Marshall® “Plexi” 1959 Super Lead ("Bright" channel) Mesa/Boogie® Dual Rectifier® Park 75 ("Bright" channel) Park 75 ("Normal" channel) Soldano® SLO100(“Clean”) Soldano® SLO100 (“Crunch”) Soldano® SLO100 (“Overdrive”) Supro® S6616 Vox® AC-15 Vox® AC-30 (Top Boost) Ampeg® B-15NF Portaflex®	Ampeg® B-15NF Portaflex® Bogner® Uberschall Divided by 13 JRT 9/15 Dr. Z® Route 66 ENGL® Fireball 100 Fender® Bassman® ("Normal" channel) Fender® Bassman® ("Bright" channel) Fender® Blackface Deluxe Reverb® ("Normal" channel) Fender® Blackface Deluxe Reverb® ("Vibrato" channel) Fender® Twin Reverb® (“Normal” channel with “Bright” switch off) Fender® Twin Reverb® ("Vibrato" channel with “Bright” switch on) Gibson® EH-185 Hiwatt® Custom 100 (DR103) Line 6 Doom** Line 6 Epic** Marshall® JCM-800 (2204) Marshall® JTM-45 MkII ("Bright" channel) Marshall® JTM-45 MkII ("Normal" channel) Marshall® “Plexi” 1959 Super Lead ("Normal" channel) Marshall® “Plexi” 1959 Super Lead ("Bright" channel) Mesa/Boogie® Dual Rectifier® Park 75 ("Bright" channel) Park 75 ("Normal" channel) Soldano® SLO100** Supro® S6616 Vox® AC-15 Vox® AC-30 (Top Boost
单块模拟	Dynamics Noise Gate Hard Gate Tube Comp Red Comp Blue Comp Vetta Comp Boost Comp Distortion Tube Drive Screamer Overdrive Classic Dist Heavy Dist Color Drive Buzz Saw Facial Fuzz Jumbo Fuzz Fuzz Pi Jet Fuzz Line 6 Drive Line 6 Distortion Sub Octave Fuzz Octave Fuzz Pitch/Mod Bass Octaver Pitch Glide Smart Harmony Pattern Tremolo Panner Bias Tremolo Opto Tremolo Script Phase Panned Phaser Barberpole Phaser Dual Phaser U-Vibe Phaser Pitch Vibrato Dimension Analog Chorus Tri Chorus Analog Flanger Jet Flanger AC Flanger 80A Flanger Frequency Shifter Ring Modulator Rotary Drum Rotary Drum+Horn Filter Voice Box V-Tron Q Filter Vocoder Seeker Obi Wah Tron Up/Down Throbber Slow Filter Spin Cycle Comet Trails Octisynth Synth O Matic Attack Synth Synth String Growler EQ Graphic EQ Parametric EQ Studio EQ 4 Band Shift EQ Mid Focus EQ Vintage Pre Delay Ping Pong Dynamic Delay Stereo Delay Digital Delay Dig Delay w/ Mod Reverse Lo Res Delay Tube Echo Tape Echo Sweep Echo Echo Platter Analog W/Mod Analog Echo Auto-Volume Echo Multi-Head Wah/Vol Fassel Weeper Custom Chrome Vetta Wah Throaty Conductor Colorful Volume Pan Reverb Plate Room Chamber Hall Echo Tile Cave Ducking Octo Spring ‘63 Spring Particle Verb	4 Band Shift EQ '63 Spring Attack Synth Bass Octaver Blue Comp Blue Comp Treb Boost Comp Buzz Saw Classic Distortion Color Drive Dimension Facial Fuzz Frequency Shifter Fuzz Pi Graphic EQ Growler x Hard Gate Heavy Distortion Jet Fuzz Jumbo Fuzz Line 6 Distortion Line 6 Drive Mid Focus EQ Octave Fuzz Octisynth Overdrive Parametric EQ Particle Verb Pitch Glide Q Filter Red Comp Ring Modulator Rotary Drum Rotary Drum & Horn Screamer Slow Filter Smart Harmony Spring Studio EQ Sub Octave Fuzz Synth String Synth-O-Matic Tron Down Tron Up Tube Drive Vetta Comp Vetta Juice V-Tron Vintage Preamp MODS Analog Chorus Analog Flanger Barberpole Phaser Bias Trem Dual Phaser Obi Wah Opto Trem Panned Phaser Panner Pattern Tremolo Phaser Pitch Vibrato Script Phase Seeker Spin Cycle Throbber U-Vibe Voice Box DELAYS Analog Echo Analog with Mod Auto Volume Echo Digital Delay Digital Delay with Mod Dynamic Delay Echo Platter Echo Platter Studio Lo Res Delay Multi-head Delay Ping Pong Reverse Delay Stereo Delay Sweep Echo Sweep Echo Studio Tape Echo Tape Echo Studio Tube Echo Tube Echo Studio REVERBS Cave Chamber Ducking Echo Hall Octo Plate Room Tile WAHS Chrome Chrome Custom Colorful Conductor Fassel Throaty Vetta Wah Weeper

接口方面基本相同

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小小样

下月何时能到货.售价如何?

saximi

下月何时到货 价格如何呵呵

小哈

结合十分有限基本忘光的专业知识...所谓ir是脉冲响应的意思吧........

zqm13

5s

hjjzone

就目前的市场格局来看 Line6不可能开放IR

mccclee

个人觉得。就算双链音色能保持不变了。    我是500用户。  双链时候明显声音觉得和单连用同样效果不同

59253743

如果line6支持ir，我觉得kpa这种设备都可以下课了。。。。
试过用guitar rig做前级，然后电脑上挂个ir，声音真的是可以做很棒的录音了。
也用过hd500做前级，然后电脑上挂ir，声音也是棒极了。
如果用guitar rig和line6不挂ir，用自身的箱体模拟，声音要差一些。
目前我觉得，其实不管用不用ir，声音是不一样，用ir的感觉是更好，不需要调节太多感觉音色就已经很棒了，稍微修饰一下挂eq什么的就可以了，但是我觉得不用ir一样可以做出很帮的混音，但这个需要有稍微深一些的混音功底。
我觉得电吉他这个乐器本来动态就差的要命，5万元的gibson，5万元的fender，我觉得单从动态响应来看，都比不上一支500元的箱琴。
特别是metal这种类型的音乐，失真度越大，动态就越差，对声卡这种录音设备的要求就越高，但对吉他本身的要求却没有那么的高。
喜欢用line6的用户我觉得有很大比例是因为它的higain音色做的好，我也是其中之一，对higain要求越高，对吉他的品质没有那么的重要，需要出好声，其实也不需要买太发烧的吉他。
hd系列这次我觉得higain音色还是和x3差不多，当然我感觉比x3还是要有提升，但对比x3提升更大的不是higain的箱摸，是fender类型这种clean箱摸做的要比x3好多了。
hd500x和hd500应该声音是没差别的，差别在dsp运算可以更多的模拟，这个如果要用双信号链肯定是有好处的，如果我要用hd500录音，就算我挂满了8个单块，2个箱体模拟，录好了以后我还是要在daw上来挂一些插件，一般挂的最多的是eq。

我感觉line6这次的hd系列比x3要复杂一些
line6的eq，我觉得做的不行。。。。。不应该用百分比啊。。。。。至少应该给个频率刻度吧。。。。
我经常在hd500上挂eq的时候要挂上2个到4个，有时候挂了4个eq，声音还是不对劲，为什么我会挂4个，是因为line6上我找不到合适的多段压缩用，只有那么一到两个eq是有频率刻度的。。。。要是有合适的多段eq，我还能空闲出2到3个单块模块可以开其他效果让dsp运算呢。

hd500x如果把eq和压缩这个部分做好，同时又能挂上更多的单块来修饰音色。那我觉得就太棒了，不过我觉得500x应该还做不到这样的。。。。

其实现在电脑上的软件效果器和ir脉冲的效果已经相当不错了，去听听ForTiorI吧。

solongsun

这个国内啥时候有货啊