Acoustic Guitar论坛关于Ramirez 125周年纪念型吉他的讨论
没有时间, 就不翻译了. 十弦吉他演奏家Perf(以前介绍过)也发表了一些看法. 有趣的是, 就琴的价格, 他发出了"古典吉他演奏家们比尘土还穷 (We all know classical guitarists are poorer than dirt)" 的牢骚Miguel
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http://www.acousticguitar.com/ubb/posticon.gifposted 06-11-2007 02:11 PM http://www.acousticguitar.com/ubb/profile.gif http://www.acousticguitar.com/ubb/edit_ubb6.gif http://www.acousticguitar.com/ubb/quote_ubb6.gif Not the "Estudio" model that sells for under $2500 but the "real thing"that GSI has listed (though sold) in the "inquire" category and theywon't quote prices on their expensive merchandise if you don't answertheir probing personal questions correctly. http://www.acousticguitar.com/ubb/confused.gif
I read on another forum that a dealer in England had one in the $26,000-28,000 range. Is this possible?
I really have no intention of buying one, I'm just curious as I think others might be. Posts: 41 | Registered: Jul 2006 | http://www.acousticguitar.com/ubb/reportpost.gifAnthony Dalton
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http://www.acousticguitar.com/ubb/posticon.gifposted 06-11-2007 02:29 PM http://www.acousticguitar.com/ubb/profile.gif http://www.acousticguitar.com/ubb/edit_ubb6.gif http://www.acousticguitar.com/ubb/quote_ubb6.gif Not only possible but probable.
A new basic 1asells for about $9600, an Elitefor about $14,800, the 1912 Manuel Ramirezcopy for about $16,000, a Centenariofor roughly $20,000 so, yeah, an asking price of 26-28 grand for the new model doesn't surprise me too much.
They'llprobably all (they're supposedly going to make 125 of them) be boughtby deep-pocketed collectors and not real players but even so, I thinkthe real world price will drop once the novelty factor wears off. Posts: 1442 | From: VA | Registered: Oct 2002 | http://www.acousticguitar.com/ubb/reportpost.gifPERF
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http://www.acousticguitar.com/ubb/posticon.gifposted 06-11-2007 07:28 PM http://www.acousticguitar.com/ubb/profile.gif http://www.acousticguitar.com/ubb/homepage.gif http://www.acousticguitar.com/ubb/email.gif http://www.acousticguitar.com/ubb/priv_message.gif http://www.acousticguitar.com/ubb/edit_ubb6.gif http://www.acousticguitar.com/ubb/quote_ubb6.gif I played #1 in the series at thewinter NAMM show last January.... it's got the Ramirez sound but with amore "modern" edge to it, complete with teh slightly elevated fretboard!
Itdoes carry a $26,000-$28,000 price tag and last I heard all theproduction for this year is spoken for and Ramirez is now taking ordersfor next year's batch.
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http://www.acousticguitar.com/ubb/posticon.gifposted 06-11-2007 11:15 PM http://www.acousticguitar.com/ubb/profile.gif http://www.acousticguitar.com/ubb/homepage.gif http://www.acousticguitar.com/ubb/email.gif http://www.acousticguitar.com/ubb/priv_message.gif http://www.acousticguitar.com/ubb/edit_ubb6.gif http://www.acousticguitar.com/ubb/quote_ubb6.gif Is it made from CNC machine or basically hand-made?
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Posts: 133 | From: British Columbia | Registered: Jun 2006 | http://www.acousticguitar.com/ubb/reportpost.gifMichael Dagdigian
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http://www.acousticguitar.com/ubb/posticon.gifposted 06-12-2007 05:07 AM http://www.acousticguitar.com/ubb/profile.gif http://www.acousticguitar.com/ubb/priv_message.gif http://www.acousticguitar.com/ubb/edit_ubb6.gif http://www.acousticguitar.com/ubb/quote_ubb6.gif Aren't the Ramirez Eliteand Centenarioguitars essentially just gussied-up 1a models built with more expensive woods, fancy tuners, etc.?
Perfmentioned the slightly elevated fingerboard and the GSI websitephoto/blurb shows a rather unique rosette and mentions a French polishfinish on the 125th Anniversary model but are there any otherdifferences other than some contrived exclusivity factor to justifysuch a high price? Posts: 466 | From: Boston MA, USA | Registered: Oct 2002 | http://www.acousticguitar.com/ubb/reportpost.gifPERF
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http://www.acousticguitar.com/ubb/posticon.gifposted 06-12-2007 08:39 AM http://www.acousticguitar.com/ubb/profile.gif http://www.acousticguitar.com/ubb/homepage.gif http://www.acousticguitar.com/ubb/email.gif http://www.acousticguitar.com/ubb/priv_message.gif http://www.acousticguitar.com/ubb/edit_ubb6.gif http://www.acousticguitar.com/ubb/quote_ubb6.gif From what Amalia told me, each125th Anniversario will be handmade in their shop, also each guitarwill pass through Amalia's inspection for QC.The neck also has agraphite stiffener. However, they'll be using Madagascar RW not BrazRW, probly due to the BRW crackdown in Spain.
That said, the exclusivity is probably the biggest factor for the price.
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Posts: 655 | From: Duarte, CA | Registered: Feb 2003 | http://www.acousticguitar.com/ubb/reportpost.gifAnthony Dalton
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http://www.acousticguitar.com/ubb/posticon.gifposted 06-12-2007 09:02 AM http://www.acousticguitar.com/ubb/profile.gif http://www.acousticguitar.com/ubb/edit_ubb6.gif http://www.acousticguitar.com/ubb/quote_ubb6.gif Ramirez is supposedly only going to make a total of 30 Manuel Ramirezmodels over a period of five years and they sell for $10,000-$12,000 less than the Aniversario model. Posts: 1442 | From: VA | Registered: Oct 2002 | http://www.acousticguitar.com/ubb/reportpost.gifMichael Dagdigian
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http://www.acousticguitar.com/ubb/posticon.gifposted 06-12-2007 11:12 AM http://www.acousticguitar.com/ubb/profile.gif http://www.acousticguitar.com/ubb/priv_message.gif http://www.acousticguitar.com/ubb/edit_ubb6.gif http://www.acousticguitar.com/ubb/quote_ubb6.gif Marketing gimmicks don't seem to work very well in the classical guitarworld. Take, for example, the Ramirez GH (George Harrison) model.Originally a low end student guitar that was "reissued" in all solidwoods with a fairly steep price tag and a story to go along with it. Itjust didn't seem to catch on.
Thelast ones GSI had were selling for about half the original asking priceand they were throwing in a "signed letter from Amalia Ramirez" (a bigselling point for a factory guitar?), a Beatles "Hard Day's Night" DVDand...a free HumiCase!
But wait, folks...that's not all!!! If you order in the next ten minutes.......
Have your credit card ready. Operators are standing by.
Of course, the "exclusivity" angle on the real pricey stuff will certainly appeal to some. Posts: 466 | From: Boston MA, USA | Registered: Oct 2002 | http://www.acousticguitar.com/ubb/reportpost.gifDavid Norton
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http://www.acousticguitar.com/ubb/posticon.gifposted 06-12-2007 04:02 PM http://www.acousticguitar.com/ubb/profile.gif http://www.acousticguitar.com/ubb/homepage.gif http://www.acousticguitar.com/ubb/email.gif http://www.acousticguitar.com/ubb/priv_message.gif http://www.acousticguitar.com/ubb/edit_ubb6.gif http://www.acousticguitar.com/ubb/quote_ubb6.gif I'm holding out for the nearly-inevitable production run of the "1912Manuel Ramirez", complete with (yet another) newly-remastered CD ofSegovia's recordings on the legendary original one.
Since 1912 is also the centennial of the Titanic,if Ramirez is REALLY smart they will figure out some sort of connectingangle. Maybe a case of Manuel Ramirez guitars was being shipped onboard from London to New York??
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http://www.acousticguitar.com/ubb/posticon.gifposted 06-12-2007 04:08 PM http://www.acousticguitar.com/ubb/profile.gif http://www.acousticguitar.com/ubb/email.gif http://www.acousticguitar.com/ubb/priv_message.gif http://www.acousticguitar.com/ubb/edit_ubb6.gif http://www.acousticguitar.com/ubb/quote_ubb6.gif Ramirez meets Fender in the marketing department.
Swell.
Why do people fall for this nonsense?
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Maybe I just lack "vision".
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http://www.acousticguitar.com/ubb/posticon.gifposted 06-12-2007 05:57 PM http://www.acousticguitar.com/ubb/profile.gif http://www.acousticguitar.com/ubb/homepage.gif http://www.acousticguitar.com/ubb/email.gif http://www.acousticguitar.com/ubb/priv_message.gif http://www.acousticguitar.com/ubb/edit_ubb6.gif http://www.acousticguitar.com/ubb/quote_ubb6.gif I'm waiting for the Charo model. http://www.acousticguitar.com/ubb/smile.gif
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http://www.acousticguitar.com/ubb/posticon.gifposted 06-12-2007 09:37 PM http://www.acousticguitar.com/ubb/profile.gif http://www.acousticguitar.com/ubb/homepage.gif http://www.acousticguitar.com/ubb/email.gif http://www.acousticguitar.com/ubb/priv_message.gif http://www.acousticguitar.com/ubb/edit_ubb6.gif http://www.acousticguitar.com/ubb/quote_ubb6.gif quote:Originally posted by Michael Dagdigian:
Marketing gimmicks don't seem to work very well in the classical guitar world. Of course not! We all know classical guitarists are poorer than dirthttp://www.acousticguitar.com/ubb/wink.gif
The marketing gimmicks are aimed for the decidedly non-Classical crowd with deep pockets, that's how they stay afloathttp://www.acousticguitar.com/ubb/biggrin.gif
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