『效果器的收藏』我的87年产的合唱CE3

蓝调吉他手

BOSS的合唱为什么新出的型号就那么差呢？无论是ch1还是ce5
真是黄鼠狼下耗子一代不如一代，原来经典的CE-1 CE2都是传奇。ce3比ce2多了立体声输出， ce3还提供另外的一种双输出，就是带效果的和不带效果的一起出声，很有特色。我这个是绿色贴纸的二代日产，第一代是黑色贴纸的，编号是：812405 ，生产于1987年。最下面一张是我的两个VINTAGE合唱的合影，呵呵。

国外资料：

CE-3 Chorus
This chorus pedal have adjustments for depth and rate and supports in addition a stereo output. Having two outputs gives you the option of having a chorused signal from Output A and the direct signal at the same time from Output B. These can be panned left and right to simulate the sound of two guitars playing simultaneously.
The placement of the 3 knobs are not typical. This is the only 3-knob pedal that has the knobs in a row. As this causes the LED to become hidden behind the middle knob, it was a solution that was soon changed in favor of the normal V shaped 3 knob controls.
There are minor colour versions of this pedal and some versions have white top knobs as well. The knobs was on the later models changed to white top knobs. The CE-3 was the first metallic coloured Boss compact pedal.
Version differences

• The earlier versions had all black knobs. These where later changed to the white top knobs.

Boss Pocket Dictionary vol.3 (1986):
In order to make optimum use of the CE-3, it is important to fully understand how the Stereo Mode control works.
In Mode I, the signal at the A output jack is a combination of the direct signal plus a positive-phase effect signal (direct+effect), while the signal at the B output jack is a combination of the direct signal plus a reverse-polarity effect signal (direct-effect). The two outputs can be further combined and sent separately to two amps in order to create a true, wide stage stereo chorus sound with a lush, swirling and deep effect.

• In Mode II, only the effect signalis sent to the output jack, and the B output jack receives no effect signal at all. This is the same configuration found on the original CE-1 and on Roland's well-known Jazz Chorus Amplifiers.
• When Using the monaural setting, set the Stereo Mode control to Mode I.

Specifications

• Controls: Rate, Depth, 2-way Mode Switch
• Connectors: Input, Output A, Output B, AC Adaptor
• Current Draw: 13 mA (DC 9V)
• Weight: 400g/0.88 lbs.
• Input Impedance: 1Mohm
• Residual Noise Level: -90 dBm (IHF-A)
• Recommended Load Impedance: 10kOhm or greater
• Recommended AC Adaptor: ACA Series

Labels

• Black - Made In Japan
• Green - Made In Japan
• Green - Made In Taiwan

The CE-3 was sold from October 1982 to February 1992.

[ 本帖最后由 蓝调吉他手 于 2008-7-1 21:10 编辑 ]

凌辱之雨

我以前有个黑标日产的CE3   当时不懂   300块卖掉了

蓝调吉他手

我的编号是81开头的  但是资料显示82年开始生产的  也不排除资料不准  或者我推测的年代不准  呵呵

[ 本帖最后由 蓝调吉他手 于 2008-7-1 21:02 编辑 ]

极地是好乐队

首先崇拜楼主的收藏，我觉得绝大多数收藏vintage东西的人，无论收集什么，都是有品位，有生活，有思想的人。但我不太明白为什么老效果器声音总是受到崇拜。是因为量产，还是第三世界国家建厂以后制作工艺的下降？还有，现在hi-fi技术日新月异后，却有很多人回归了老电子管收音机。这些是视听习惯，还是流行时尚的循环往复？

只是想讨论讨论~~~

蓝调吉他手

CE-2 Chorus
The CE-2 was the first compact pedal chorus from Boss. The CE-1 was released 1976 and contained the exact same circuit as the Roland Jazz Chorus JC-120 Amp. The CE-2 builds on the legacy of the CE-1 but isn't identical. The middle region is boosted in the CE-2 compared to the CE-1. According to the design engineers this may be because the CE-1 had a lower input impedance.

Roland says that they stopped marketing the CE-2 November 1982. The pedal was however still produced and sold at least out 1990. The label changed from black to green 1984. The CE-2 was produced in Japan up until 1988 when production moved to Taiwan. The CE-2s circuit changed very little over its more than 10 years in production.

Version differences


The CE-2 exists in both silver screw and black screw versions.
The font used on the "Chorus" label is wider on some versions. This results in the C in CE-2 to be located under the r in Chorus on the earliest models while it later ended up under the u.
The circuit has gone through some minor changes but nothing significant. All versions of the CE-2 are designed around the MN3007 BBD using MN3101 clock driver.

Specifications

Controls: Rate, Depth
Connectors: Input, Output, AC Adaptor
Current Draw: 9 mA (DC 9V)
Weight: 400 g. (14 oz)
Input Impedance: 470kOhm
Signal/Noise Ratio: 90dB or more
Recommended Load Impedance: 10kOhm or greater
Recommended AC Adaptor: ACA Series
Labels

Black - Made In Japan
Green - Made In Japan
Green - Made In Taiwan
The CE-2 was sold from October 1979 to November 1982.

蓝调吉他手

原帖由 极地是好乐队 于 2008-7-1 20:18 发表
首先崇拜楼主的收藏，我觉得绝大多数收藏vintage东西的人，无论收集什么，都是有品位，有生活，有思想的人。但我不太明白为什么老效果器声音总是受到崇拜。是因为量产，还是第三世界国家建厂以后制作工艺的下降？还有 ...

不是说老的就一定好  这也是误区  但是老的确实有的比现在音色好  比如 boss od-1 没有tone钮 0D3多一个音色钮在电路的设计上就不同了  反而有些画蛇添足   影响了动态 。还有一些新的换了芯片或者改良了电路  减少了噪音  音色却下降了。其实 老的垃圾单块也不少，收到好评的也不是很多。

对于收藏来说 ，这是一种品位，也是一种生活，就像集邮。 物以稀为贵嘛， 我藏的基本都是停产的。

[ 本帖最后由 蓝调吉他手 于 2008-7-1 21:01 编辑 ]

pennyverve

弱弱地更正一下篮版，这块ce-3是87年产的。。你可以去http://www.bossarea.com/serial/sndecoder.aspx 查。。如果是87年产的话，这块说实话比较破旧了，日本现在很容易就能买到保存的比较新的ce-3了，而且也不大贵，500rmb上下。。

doue

和ce-2一样是模拟的吗？~

裂焰

真羡慕楼主收藏的好东西呀！

蓝调吉他手

原帖由 pennyverve 于 2008-7-1 20:30 发表
弱弱地更正一下篮版，这块ce-3是87年产的。。你可以去http://www.bossarea.com/serial/sndecoder.aspx 查。。如果是87年产的话，这块说实话比较破旧了，日本现在很容易就能买到保存的比较新的ce-3了，而且也不大贵， ...

谢谢你的更正。  在国内老的boss不多见，日本当然多了，可惜看得见买不到。

陶瓷清爽

蓝版,只有黑标的第一代日产BOSS才值得收藏.其他的可有可无.
这点要注意.否则花大价钱买来就不合适了.

蓝调吉他手

根据这个序列号查询器  我的日产ce-2  编号是685300  查询后结果是  1987的
可资料显示1982年就停产了   是资料不正确还是序号查询器不准？？？迷茫了

蓝调吉他手

原帖由 陶瓷清爽 于 2008-7-1 21:07 发表
蓝版,只有黑标的第一代日产BOSS才值得收藏.其他的可有可无.
这点要注意.否则花大价钱买来就不合适了.

谢谢你，贵的我从来不买，呵呵。
另外 我喜欢的日产台产的都很多。

modernzj

还是2个钮的看起来更漂亮一些 呵呵

pennyverve

确实是1982年停产的。。。ce-2是好东西！个人感觉比ce-3的音色更舒服一些，不过价格要高近乎一倍呢~

[ 本帖最后由 pennyverve 于 2008-7-2 15:41 编辑 ]

muma8701

蓝版把我的86年日产OD2收了吧,哈哈哈哈

大金属

羡慕啊，凑合用我的ARION 了

疯子熙清

蓝调吉他手是一个很有品味的人 值得尊敬~

小秀唯尊

日产的黑标比绿标要早多久 比绿标好很多吗

蓝色深沉

我有个银钉DS1~~里面编号7700~~怎么查是几几年产的啊？？