关于怪兽高级线材PRO1000,请买线的人注意此帖

麦多多 · 发表于 2011-1-5 09:34:46

敬请吉他或乐器使用的是STUDIO PRO1000 的INSTRUMENTCABLE也就是2芯带屏蔽,简称大三芯录音棚平衡线.其他所有型号非吉他使用
敬请音箱连接使用SPEAKERCABLE拥有强大的保真以及功率传输准确性.
敬请录音工具效果器等传输信号线使用STUDIOLINK系列.拥有平衡效果.以及柔软的设计理念方便使用不容易损坏.

Studio Pro 1000 錄音室Pro級1000型樂器線是頂尖音樂老師, 錄音師, 音樂製作人, 在錄音及現場表演所使用的監聽級樂器線, Studio Pro 1000 錄音室Pro級1000型樂器線擁有Monster Cable最高等級的線材科技,包括：

○Heavy-Duty 黑尼龍網夾克提供超強, 耐用及發燒外型

○使用粗細不同的導線傳輸高/中/低頻率, 重現正確自然的音樂

○MicroFiber絕緣體隔離線可得最快速的瞬間突波, 最大清晰度, 及臨場感

○MultiTwist™多重絞線, 阻抗平衡式建構, 可獲得最大的訊號傳輸及噪音抑制

○密拉箔及銅線編織蔽屏, 雙重保護97% 分布的編織蔽屏銅線, 及注入的碳絕緣體, 為最有效的噪音抑制.

○24K鍍金, heavy-duty高電流接頭, 堅固耐用, 防腐蝕

○人體工學特殊設計, heavy-duty 插拔手感, 堅固耐用, 美觀專業

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看到上面的介绍后大家能自然看出点东西来吧,经过我卖线材这么久来学到不少东西,而不是赚钱的东西,而是最本心的东西,因为最近看到实在有太多的人误把非乐器线当吉他线来使用了.他们都不知道原来里边还有这么多不同的型号.而实际上是不能共用的

natureliving · 发表于 2011-1-5 09:46:51

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gundamz2 · 发表于 2011-1-5 09:58:56

一个在大陆假货比真货还真的商品- -做太多科普没啥意义- -已经扭转不过来了

虽然我很想买齐一整套（乐器+喇叭+MIC线……），但是跨国网购之类的还是不能放心- -

继续等待奸商引进能让人放心的新货，参考其他99刀的商品，卖个合理的价格，大部分人应该接受

猜测现在问题估计是人家不肯卖给中国商人吧？怕牌子被做瘫掉？

麦多多 · 发表于 2011-1-5 16:03:38

主要是提醒一些无良的商家,我去过广州多个专门卖HIFI线材的店,他们的线都是喇叭线.打开看都是没有屏蔽的.而他们还说肯定可以.实际上都是奸商为主.那些人大家一定要注意了.

paullee · 发表于 2011-1-6 10:20:59

请问lz，我的这两个图中是吉他用的连线吗？
下面是连接
http://www.music123.com/Accessories/Cables-Snakes/Instrument-Cables/Studio-Pro-1000-Instrument-Cable.site7prod331661.product

http://www.music123.com/Accessories/Cables-Snakes/Instrument-Cables/Studio-Pro-1000-Instrument-Cable-Straight-Angled.site7prod331663.product

paullee · 发表于 2011-1-6 10:22:18

原帖由 gundamz2 于 2011-1-5 09:58 发表
一个在大陆假货比真货还真的商品- -做太多科普没啥意义- -已经扭转不过来了

虽然我很想买齐一整套（乐器+喇叭+MIC线……），但是跨国网购之类的还是不能放心- -

继续等待奸商引进能让人放心的新货，参考 ...

现在usa在打折，已经不是99usd了，我刚拖朋友买了2根，一个12ft，一个6ft，一共109usd...

Bryan.C · 发表于 2011-1-6 10:26:14

Instrument Cable——乐器线

话说，买Elixir的线多好，没见过假的，省心，声音也靠谱。

xuehouniao · 发表于 2011-1-6 11:07:24

刚刚走运买到了一根Instrument Cable的3.6米线。真粗啊！开始还以为被人忽悠了，拿喇叭线代替的，回来发现走运了，音色太通透了。

麦多多 · 发表于 2011-1-7 16:27:23

是乐器线,吉他可以使用,但你要检查一下里边的接线是否真确.屏蔽线接队没有?

paullee · 发表于 2011-1-7 21:15:47

原帖由 麦多多 于 2011-1-7 16:27 发表
是乐器线,吉他可以使用,但你要检查一下里边的接线是否真确.屏蔽线接队没有?

有朋友在美国买了mesa ta15，我就顺便在那边订了一起寄过来了。
www.music123.com。部分76% off，很便宜，也都是正品。话说东西已经寄到他美国的亲戚手里了，这几天就发过来。

arlthasz2 · 发表于 2011-1-8 04:40:29

我想说的是~~喇叭线的确是没有屏蔽的~~

bigdreamyr · 发表于 2011-1-8 07:28:45

我买了一根, 10几个英尺的,结果发现太长, 太粗......

卷起来好大一包啊

manyteeth · 发表于 2011-1-8 14:57:25

原帖由 paullee 于 2011-1-7 21:15 发表

有朋友在美国买了mesa ta15，我就顺便在那边订了一起寄过来了。
www.music123.com。部分76% off，很便宜，也都是正品。话说东西已经寄到他美国的亲戚手里了，这几天就发过来。

额。。。。。我兄弟做事比较拖拉，今天还没寄呢只能慢慢等了，朋友不介意吧？

paullee · 发表于 2011-1-8 16:37:09

原帖由 manyteeth 于 2011-1-8 14:57 发表

额。。。。。我兄弟做事比较拖拉，今天还没寄呢只能慢慢等了，朋友不介意吧？

谢朋友了，不着急，慢慢弄

讲信誉的中国人 · 发表于 2011-1-8 18:01:32

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rockeasy · 发表于 2011-1-8 18:16:53

想问下楼主你那有没有怪兽的同轴线接S/PDIF的

麦多多 · 发表于 2011-1-8 20:46:14

同轴线多着阿.吉他大部分都是

guiter · 发表于 2011-1-8 21:32:30

monster除了pro1k...还有n多inst线...

吉他用的乐器线都是非平衡的...

monster的喇叭线我还没见过有屏蔽的...

吉他用的乐器和过线...用同轴的并不多...lz可以先学习下什么叫同轴线...

麦多多 · 发表于 2011-1-9 02:40:55

版主你的说话言语未免有点语言过激了.不过.你误会我的意思了.
我想我们都应该为别人亮灯.所以我才发帖.希望的是.大家对PRO1000的线多一点认识.而不是想要说什么其他的炫耀知识.这也没有什么值得炫耀的,大家用久了都会懂.关键是目前这个音乐大环境下.我发觉大部分懂得都不会去告诉不懂的.所以才导致了奸商的出现.

在PRO1000里边是没有同轴线.因为1000都是以平衡线为主这点我明白.而喇叭线也根本是不需要带屏蔽的,因为音的传输是不需要屏蔽.而乐器才需要屏蔽.
我意思是指怪兽或者其他很多的品牌都依然有大部分吉他线是同轴线.最基本的怪兽的STANDARD100 ROCK 500号的ROCK BASS 等等都是同轴线.包括你们所常用的WARWICK KOLIN 那些低档的也都是使用同轴.
而他们都是INSTRUMENT

关于同轴线大家也可以随便上网搜一个.图片一大堆了.

不然你干嘛不用喇叭线当吉他线直接使用.就是因为那是SPEAKERCABLE 非INSTRUMENT CABLE.

[ 本帖最后由麦多多于 2011-1-9 03:01 编辑 ]

麦多多 · 发表于 2011-1-9 12:00:16

这是我对同轴的理解.如果说得不对大家也可以表达观点.其实就是插头我们使用的是6.5的插头.吉他乐器使用的是单心带屏蔽.简称2芯.主芯传输.所以也是属于同轴线的范围.同轴线还有其他的接头.下面就是功放里边会常用到的.图片.我用了两头不一样的插头图片.也有两头都一样的.

[ 本帖最后由麦多多于 2011-1-9 12:17 编辑 ]

xuehouniao · 发表于 2011-1-9 14:15:33

顶了，好帖子。

guiter · 发表于 2011-1-9 21:29:46

首先我真不知道我那句话过激了...如果有请指出...我立即向你道歉...

我是认为你的这个帖中有一些问题...而且是非常严重的概念性错误...容易对朋友们产生误导...

就你回复的这些内容来看...首先...平衡和非平衡的概念...你就错了...吉他用的所有乐器线和过线都是非平衡的...pro1k是典型的非平衡乐器线...其次..."音的传输""乐器传输"实在是不知所言...喇叭线之所以不用屏蔽...关键在于其信号的功率很大...相对于弱电干扰来说屏蔽没有意义...不论是喇叭线还是乐器线...他们传输的都是信号...而你之前的阐述..."他们的线都是喇叭线.打开看都是没有屏蔽的."...很容易让别人认为喇叭线的屏蔽是有相当作用的...

"我意思是指怪兽或者其他很多的品牌都依然有大部分吉他线是同轴线.最基本的怪兽的STANDARD100 ROCK 500号的ROCK BASS 等等都是同轴线.包括你们所常用的WARWICK KOLIN 那些低档的也都是使用同轴.
而他们都是INSTRUMENT "

你上面所说的这些线全部都不是同轴线...现在市面上比较常见的同轴吉他线是GL...

同轴线的概念...很简单...顾名思义就是线的各个部分都是在一个轴线上...从横截面看...就是同心圆...你所谓同轴线的解释我是闻所未闻...同轴线和接头没有任何关系...

最后说一点...喇叭线和乐器线之所以要分开使用...原因在于其截面面积和屏蔽...而非所谓的平衡非平衡...

麦多多 · 发表于 2011-1-9 23:18:53

这样看来你更加误会我的意思了.我那句话的意思是.现在在市场上有很多人卖的PRO1000它们原本不是乐器线.而他们自己用喇叭线装上的.然后用乐器的白色盖子,充当乐器线出售.还有就是就算有屏蔽的他们也不接屏蔽,是因为他们很多都误以为音频的接法跟乐器的接法是一样..
这是我在广州几个能买到PRO1000的线的店铺.看到的情况.都是这样子,这样的话就导致了很多买家受损.

这个贴只是对大家对PRO1000有警惕作用. 其他的我说的不对你大可也发表观点.欢迎指教.
我如果说得不对.我在这跟你说对不起,没关系的,都是论坛朋友,都是为了别人好.是出于好心,而非异心.

麦多多 · 发表于 2011-1-9 23:26:09

还有关于同轴线的解析:你说的也不错.但是你也可以参考很多线材的商家他们也把所偶乐器单芯带屏蔽都列为同轴线,因为它也符合同轴线的理解.只是乐器需要带屏蔽.而且切割后一样形成同心圆.但大双芯线就不行.

如果我理解错误.没关系.我道歉.

希望大家能了解到我这篇文的重点是提醒对PRO1000的认识,注意购买前注意的问题.

[ 本帖最后由麦多多于 2011-1-9 23:33 编辑 ]

guiter · 发表于 2011-1-10 09:45:05

关于购买洋垃圾的线...我不太想多说什么...

线壁上线材名称写的清清楚楚...

关于同轴线...首先16楼问的是monster的数字同轴线...就数字同轴线来说...没有所谓的几芯几芯...数字同轴线截面一定是同心圆...你可以把你在19楼例举的线材截面切割以后看是不是同轴线...所谓单芯屏蔽...只不过是结构上像同轴线而已...和同轴线的概念差异大了...同轴的吉他线...目前典型的有GL...你可以对比下音色趋向...是完全不同的...

麦多多 · 发表于 2011-1-10 15:44:32

谢谢指教.但我就想不明白.关于同轴线的说法是很多的.你说那不是.也有很多说是的.
而PLANETWAVES的直插线人家也说是同轴线.我剪看了,跟其他也是一样.
好了关于同轴线,还是先放一边吧.问题的关键都是想大家能注意一下这高端的线的购买知识.

guiter · 发表于 2011-1-10 16:40:49

不要忘记你在上网...各种知识库中关于"同轴线"的概念...随便一翻就有...概念性的东西谁说了都不算对...包括我说的...不要随便听来的观点就当做是真理...

洋垃圾喇叭线用来做乐器线...除非对线材一无所知...否则...简单看下线材上的名称即便了然...lz这样泛泛我觉得根本起不到任何作用...我倒是想请lz...给大家普及一下monster线材不在大陆销售的成因...目前monster赝品的产地销售状况...以及真假monster的区分...

paullee · 发表于 2011-1-10 17:34:32

和谐和谐

麦多多 · 发表于 2011-1-10 20:38:08

为什么不再在中国销售的原因其实大家都知道.中国的经济能力接受能力.能保证每个人都能买的起吗? 就像当初的打口唱片. 但无法否认这给中国音乐带来了很大的帮助. 穷人也是有追求的.
赝品的原因.我想大家也可以估计.因为有利润的空间.什么东西来中国了就会出现大量的样品.

真假的区分.我想.这点在线上都是标示的.还有铜芯的纯度跟音色.这些方面.需要有经验的人去看.音色听更是扯谈.两个人两个耳朵都听不一样了.所以关键还是要积累.

不过区分重点我想要注意这些: 仿的他也有透明玻璃胶封焊吗?也能使用一样的铜芯材质,音色也能达到一样吗? 如果真做到这样我也无言了.那个做赝品的就是傻瓜了.

trick · 发表于 2011-1-11 00:51:28

学习学习~~

麦多多 · 发表于 2011-1-11 01:35:37

欢迎大家发表观点.顶起来吧,人多点.热闹点,

guiter · 发表于 2011-1-11 08:08:00

说了跟没说一样...就从阐述中便知你对monster根本就不了解...

你连假的monster都没见过...

不想多说了...继续卖你的线吧...不要忽悠大家就ok了...

另外提醒大家...购买洋垃圾要谨慎...很多假货也充斥在所谓洋垃圾中...

HIDE的魂 · 发表于 2011-1-11 08:28:26

其实吧。。。。。俺觉得monster那个线可贵。。。。。。。。。反正俺的耳朵和俺那个破音箱是显示不出来它有什么过人之处。。。。。。

麦多多 · 发表于 2011-1-11 12:57:28

是的请放心. 对我是没卖到过一条假的.卖的都是来自美国吉他中心的货. 对得住良心,不忽悠任何一个朋友

在这版我也是想多学习学习.不谈卖东西.

我到见过假的怪兽线两条.但都是一些论坛朋友买了别人的线.拿过来给我看.才知道有仿的.那颜色是白色的整条线,还有橙色.里边铜芯纯度低,外层保护胶很薄.很粗燥.他拿过来一比较就知道了.音色大但没有层次感.没有质感.低音不下潜.CLEAR不能形成弧度收缩.失真的时候屏蔽不高

小伟的solo · 发表于 2011-2-17 11:18:57

我只想买到一根好的真的吉他线。真诚求购

Passivity · 发表于 2011-2-17 11:37:34

我代购了几次觉得还是挺靠谱的
因为帮你代购的伙计根本不懂这是啥。。。。为了过海关包关我给他解释这东西是啥就费了好大劲（当然前几次不是线材）
所以应该没啥好担心的他收个百分之几的代购费你拿东西完事了呗而且老外卖东西都给发票到了货你看发票和你买的店是不是一家就得了呗

xuxiuwen · 发表于 2011-2-18 23:11:37

买条george‘l就完事了嘛，大家都认同的好线，虽然不算高烧，一般用算很好了，也就差那几十元，何必自己折腾自己呢？~~~·

zhouzehu23 · 发表于 2011-2-18 23:30:31

同楼上，GL的忠实用户飘过~
其实，不那么发烧的话，HK的线就够了，说实话，真的够了

longyeye的新号 · 发表于 2011-7-18 03:08:28

http://bbs.guitarschina.com/view ... e%3D1&frombbs=1 求鉴定

民谣金属 · 发表于 2011-7-20 11:54:51

其实我也一直在关注怪兽1000线的。。

因为国内鱼龙混杂，所以迟迟不曾下手。
国内很多都是自己用玻璃胶自己封的，一看就封的粗糙。他的线真不真有点怀疑。

也想学习下真的怪兽1000里面到底是什么线，拨开看看。
希望有朋友上图，让大家学习下。
有图有真相，让大家都受益。。

楼主能抛砖引玉，赞一个。。

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