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【我眼中的爵士大师的设备】爵士吉他常用的音箱介绍和选择

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发表于 2011-4-3 16:47:15 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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许多网友和学生问我什么吉他放大器是他们应该买的?。吉他放大器选择的好坏决定了你的吉他音色是否能实现一个爵士味。在这篇文章我将给你简短的介绍和回顾最受爵士吉他手欢迎的吉他放大器。
To tube or not to tube: do you go for an all tube amp, hybrid tube/solid state or a solid-state amp?

   Pros of tube amps:

  • The sound obviously, some guitar players swear by it. Note that recent technology innovations make it possible to emulate the sound of a tube amplifier in a satisfying way (Roland Cube 60 and its Cosm amp emulation for example).
  • The overdriven sounds are more musical compared to solid-state amps.
  • High dynamic range.

   Cons of tube amps:

  • Heavy!
  • They are a pain to maintain. Valves need to be replaced about once in a year.
  • They are noisier than solid-state amps.
  • Tube amps are more expensive.

对于是使用全管的还是晶体管的音箱的争执一直没有停止过,原则上晶体管的吉他音箱也可以胜任爵士乐。

全管的音色温暖,动态好,很多职业大师都很信赖全管的表现,甚至追求早期的vintage的全管音箱,缺点就是太笨重,

价格很昂贵,修理维护起来很麻烦,电子管要经常更换,还要匹配电子管的型号,当人也有很多人也追求不同型号年代的

电子管以追求音色的不同。还有一个缺点就是噪音大,玩清音还不错,玩轻失真或者重过载的fusion就有些太噪。个人认

为初学者还是买个罗兰的60瓦晶体管音箱就可以了。职业吉他手可以挑选很昂贵的全管产品,当然,没有全能的吉他音

箱,不同的歌可能需要不同品牌不同型号不同年代的,所以不可能一次到位,作为职业吉他手最好要3-4个顶级音箱。

当然分体音箱音色和动态更好   一体的运输方便  初学不需要分体。音色是吉他音箱等设备搭配出来的,先去了解你喜欢

音色是什么琴+音箱搭配出来的,你喜欢的大师最常用的设备,再决定买什么音箱。

下面介绍几种最受欢迎的爵士音箱:


Fender Amps
There are 4 Fender amps that are popular in jazz circles: the Fender Hot Rod Deluxe, Fender Jazz King, Fender Jazzmaster and Fender Blues Jr.
Fender Hot Rod Deluxe
The Fender Hot Rod Deluxe was first produced in 1996.

Price Range$650 - $1000
Weight45 lbs. (20 kg)
Wattage40W
TypeTube Amp
Speaker1 x 12" Eminence
Cons
  • Some guitar players report the bass strings sound muddy. This obviously depends on what guitar you connect to the amplifier.
  • Little headroom: the clean channel is pretty crunchy (from 4 upwards). Single coil pickups keep clean longer, humbuckers overdrive early. Good for Scofield-type sound.
  • The reverb is a bit over the top. You'll never go beyond 2.
Pros
  • The Fender Hot Rod Deluxe is extremely loud for its size and wattage.
  • Reasonably priced.
  • Reverb sounds good.
  • Quiet amp.
  • Signature Fender mid-range warmth.
  • Very sturdy and portable, ideal for gigs.
  • Versatile amp. Besides the clean channel, there are 2 distortion channels.


Fender Jazz King

Price Range$700 - $1000
Weight50 lbs. (22 kg)
Wattage140W
TypeSolid State Amp
Speaker1 x 15" Eminence
Cons
  • One trick pony, don't buy it for distortion.
  • The weight.
  • The reverb has a long decay and can only be used at very low settings.
Pros
  • Designed for a clean tone.
  • Very versatile tone shaping, doesn't sound sterile in any way. Punchy, warm and clear tone.
  • Loud!
  • Ample headroom.
  • Very quiet amp.
  • Reasonably priced.


Fender Jazzmaster Ultralight Speaker Cabinet + Amp Head



Price Range$700 - $1000 (amp) + $300 - $400 (speaker)= $1000 - $1400
Weight7 lbs. (amp) + 17 lbs. (speaker) = 24 lbs. (11 kg)
Wattage250W
TypeSolid State Amp (w tube emulation)
Speaker1 x 12" Jensen Speaker
Cons
  • The drive channel gets noisy when you push the gain past halfway.
Pros
  • Ultra light!
  • Warm tone.
  • Looks cool (ahum).


Fender Blues Jr.



Price Range$500 - $750
Weight31 lbs. (14 kg)
Wattage15W
TypeAll tube amp
Speaker1 x 12" Fender Special Design Jensen Speaker
Cons
  • A bit noisy.
  • No headphone connection
  • Doesn't sound good in overdrive.
  • The tubes are a bit loose.
Pros
  • Compact
  • Warm tone.
  • Way louder than you'd expect for a 15W amp.


Roland Amps
2 Type of Roland amps are popular amongst jazz guitarist: the Roland Cube 60 and the Roland JC-120 Jazz Chorus.
Roland Cube 60
The Roland Cube 60 is clearly a winner, very popular jazz guitar amp with amp emulation that works. Besides being very good, it's also one of the cheapest amps in this roundup. The Cube 15, 20 and 30 exist as well, but while they are good practice amps, they don't compare to the Cube 60 (update: a reader reports using 2 Cube 30s work even better than 1 Cube 60).

Price Range$350 - $450
Weight32 lbs. (14 kg)
Wattage60W
TypeSolid-State Amp (with amp emulation)
SpeakerCustom designed 12" speaker
Cons
  • Jack input is a bit fragile.
Pros
  • Very portable because of its size.
  • Includes quality digital guitar effects: delay, reverb, chorus, phase, flanger and tremolo.
  • Amp emulation: 9 COSM amp models (including the JC-120)..
  • Cheap.
  • Loud!
  • Virtually no noise.
  • Strong like a tank.


Roland JC-120 Jazz Chorus
The Roland Jazz Chorus was first made in 1975, it was one of the first guitar amps with built in effects. This amp is a real classic, it is played by many of the greats, Pat Martino, George Benson, Larry Coryell, ... It is also the amp I play on most of the time.

Price Range$900 - $1250
Weight62 lbs. (28 kg)
Wattage2 x 60W=120W
TypeSolid-State Amp
Speaker2 x 12" speaker
Cons
  • Very heavy, but it has wheels.
  • Distortion is useless.
  • Noisy
Pros
  • True stereo chorus.
  • Amazing sound, clean and warm.
  • Very loud.
  • Rich and layered tone.
  • Has a vibrate effect built in (besides chorus and reverb).
  • Very solid, built to last.
  • Wheels
  • Available in a lot of venues (clubs, schools, ...)
  • Can also be used as a bass, keyboard or vocal amp.


Polytone Amps
Polytone amps have always been very popular amongst jazz guitarists. They have that old school, classic sound. A lot of the greats have played or play a Polytone (Joe Pass, Jim Hall, Herb Ellis, ...)
Polytone Mini Brute I-V (specs are for the Mini Brute II)

Price Range$400 - $700
Weight26 lbs. (12 kg)
Wattage110W
TypeSolid-State Amp
Speaker12" speaker
Cons
  • Hard to find
  • Rumors are that Polytone amps are prone to breakdown and that factory service is not so great (I can not confirm this though).
Pros
  • Classic sound.
  • Simplified control panel.
  • Lightweight
  • Powerful


Peavey Amps
Peavey Classic 30
Peavey doesn't have a very good name, but the Classic 30 is quite popular for jazz and is a reliable and good sounding amplifier.

Price Range$600 - $750
Weight40 lbs. (18 kg)
Wattage30W
TypeTube Amp
Speaker1 x 12" Blue Marvel Speaker
Cons
  • Can be a little noisy.
  • Some people report tube rattle.
Pros
  • Loud
  • Good reverb
  • Cool tweed cover :-)
  • Good clean sound, good distortion sound.
  • Very reliable

There are many more amps that qualify as a jazz guitar amp, to name a few more: 其他适合爵士乐的音箱品牌和型号

除了非常有名的大牌音箱外,还有一些不太知名的品牌,他们基本上是专门做爵士吉他音箱的,品质都没问题。

  • Fender Twin Reverb: classic tube amp, known for its clean tone. Delivers 85W through 2 12¨ speakers. There's a reproduction of the vintage '65 Twin Reverb available at about $1300. Loved by many people, though I'm not such a big fan myself.
  • Yamaha Amps: played by Mike Stern, Allan Holdsworth. I can't tell you a lot about these, never heard them live to be honest.
  • Mesa Boogie Amps: Mesa Boogie amps are known as rock and roll amps, but they perform very good for jazz as well. John Scofield, Allan Holdsworth, Larry Carlton and Frank Zappa all play or played Mesa Boogie amps.
  • AER Amps: AER is a German company that produces acoustic guitar amplifiers. They are popular amongst gypsy jazz guitarists.
  • Acoustic Image Clarus Little Head: great amp head for jazz, has an extremely clean tone. It is often combined with a Raezor's Edge speaker cabinet. This amp is not very expensive considering its audio quality (around $500).
  • Tech 21 Trademark TM60: 60W solid state guitar amp with analog tube emulation. Good clean sound, the distortion ****s though, but hey, we play jazz, we don't care about the distortion.
  • Carvin Nomad: 50W all tube amp at a reasonable price (around $500). Very warm sound and tons of headroom.
  • Evans Amps: Very well-built and high quality amps, they cost more than the average amp though. The choice of the pros. Played by John Abercrombie, Ron Eschete, Buzz Evans amongst many others.
  • Jazzkat Amps: Sweet small guitar amp with a big tone, very portable (weighs only 23 pounds). 110W, smooth highs and rich bass. Played by Bucky and John Pizzarelli, Jack Wilkins, Joe Beck, Vinnie Carrao, Jeff Linksy, Joshua Breakstone, Randy Johnston, Sheryl Bailey, Ulf Wakenius, Andreas Öberg and Tony DeCaprio.
  • Vox AC30: good sounding amp, John Scofield used to play them, but they are very prone to breakdown (I'm talking about the Vox AC30 cc2).
  • Henriksen Jazzamp: solid state amps, come in combos or seperate head/cabinet. The Jazzamp 10 is 80W, the Jazzamp 12 is 160W (designed for acoustic bass, also works for guitar though). These amps have a lot of clean headroom and a warm sound. There's also the Jazzamp 10-R, with reverb (the other 2 don't have reverb). Played by Larry Coryell, Jimmy Bruno, Joe Diorio, Jim Hall, Howard Alden, Ronny Jordan, amongst many others.
One more tip: don't judge the sound of a guitar amp in the music store, ask if you can test drive it for a couple of days. Guitar amps sound completely different in the shop than they do at your place or in a rehearsal. The best option is to buy them online, most shops offer a 30 or 45-day return policy.

[ 本帖最后由 蓝调吉他手 于 2011-4-3 17:00 编辑 ]
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发表于 2011-4-3 23:43:24 | 显示全部楼层
吉他中国抖音
基本上Blues Junior以上的Fender 管箱都挺适合爵士的。
我乐队的主音常年用一个Fender Deluxe,布鲁斯爵士摇滚流行通吃,缺点是音量太大而且确实很重很重。。
我觉得在家里的话Blues Junior足够了。
发表于 2011-4-4 08:05:37 | 显示全部楼层

。。。。

GC视频号
家里玩blues,jazz功率小点的不是很贵的得选什么呢?我不是很懂箱子,喇叭少了,动态会不会有影响呢?家里玩放bassman太夸张了吧。。
 楼主| 发表于 2011-4-4 11:23:11 | 显示全部楼层
买琴买鼓,就找魔菇
小瓦数的肯定动态不好   你选个FENDER DELUXE REVERB  22W的单喇叭的全管
不要买双喇叭的twin   等   如果没什么钱  就选罗兰的晶体管    罗兰玩爵士还可以
音色比较冷   弹布鲁斯还是需要温暖一些的音色   所以f孔+全管 是爵士的主流搭配

[ 本帖最后由 蓝调吉他手 于 2011-4-4 11:25 编辑 ]
发表于 2011-4-4 12:19:49 | 显示全部楼层

回复 4# 蓝调吉他手 的帖子

同样的瓦数是两个喇叭动态好些吗?
发表于 2011-4-5 09:05:00 | 显示全部楼层

。。。。。。

为什么不要买两个喇叭的??
 楼主| 发表于 2011-4-5 16:09:09 | 显示全部楼层
双喇叭的 100瓦  家里用太吵了
发表于 2011-4-5 18:46:05 | 显示全部楼层

。。。。

版主,我现在用的是blackheart bh5的箱子。箱子是112的,是Eminence custom的喇叭,应该是美国产的。它可以5w和3w切换。
我现在想买一个fender的头子。
这个喇叭可以当箱体。
先买头子以后在倒腾箱体。不知道可以不?
 楼主| 发表于 2011-4-5 19:56:40 | 显示全部楼层
如果你箱子的功放有个连接喇叭的线  你就可以买个箱头
但是不同的喇叭出来的效果也不一样  你要多了解下再买
当然不同的箱头接不同的箱子还要有 欧姆的匹配
发表于 2011-4-5 20:15:50 | 显示全部楼层

。。。。

谢谢版主。我收个二手的头子吧。
发表于 2011-4-6 21:01:44 | 显示全部楼层
YAMAHA的不错!!!
发表于 2011-4-7 00:27:26 | 显示全部楼层
我在用fender hot rod deluxe和fender blues junior. BJ弹blues很合适,音量在家练习也OK。但是15w的它和40w的HRD比,稳定性和清音的表现力稍逊一些。
发表于 2011-4-8 18:49:54 | 显示全部楼层
恩,我看见了
 楼主| 发表于 2011-4-10 00:25:28 | 显示全部楼层
随便贴一些设备的图标   大家了解下 国外吉他手常用的音箱  吉他以及单块效果器的连接

[ 本帖最后由 蓝调吉他手 于 2011-4-11 21:26 编辑 ]
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发表于 2011-5-16 00:34:55 | 显示全部楼层
这么好的帖子 我有要顶!!!!!!!
发表于 2011-5-16 10:12:52 | 显示全部楼层
受教~~
发表于 2011-5-24 10:29:21 | 显示全部楼层
发表于 2011-7-2 09:44:30 | 显示全部楼层
确实有部分Jazz大师使用Solid-State的。 Mike Stern就是一个,居然用一个破的不行的Yamaha Solid-State做Tour。。。理论是不容易坏。。很多Jazz Player也prefer冷一些的音色。。
版主推荐的音箱很多都不错。
不过个人觉得Fender Hot Rod DEX 真的蛮难听的。尽管红极一时,不过音色真的没什么质感。声音有点过度饱和,而且特别响,比Twin Reverb响太多了,尽管功率只有一半,而且112。
相比之下,我觉得Twin Reverb真的不错,尽管是现在的都是Reissue,不过味道七七八八了。Scooped-mid tone,Clean真的蛮好的。一般来说都不用第一个channel(只有Bass,Tre, Vol),用第二个channel, 可以关掉Vib。和单块也没什么冲突。当然价格贵一点。不过花差不多的价格买JC120的话,我觉得还是TR吧。
个人意见,见笑了。很多非主流型号其实国内也基本买不到。。
发表于 2011-7-2 19:32:13 | 显示全部楼层

回复 18# minstrelxw 的帖子

真不是一部分而是绝大多数 只有少数用电子管的 他们需要的是big clean tone 冷暖完全可以靠tone来调
 楼主| 发表于 2011-7-2 23:06:41 | 显示全部楼层
玩爵士 音色冷   好一点的晶体管箱子 就足够了
玩布鲁斯需要温暖的音色  全电子管的就是必须了
如果你都喜欢弹  还是推荐后者  冷音色靠tone和效果器控制
发表于 2011-9-4 10:17:33 | 显示全部楼层
我要好好的学习一下
发表于 2011-9-14 03:40:12 | 显示全部楼层
頂啊!!!!!
发表于 2011-9-15 12:18:25 | 显示全部楼层
受教!!!
发表于 2012-12-17 00:32:38 | 显示全部楼层

每一款音响都不便宜

淘宝 就没有低于 3000的
发表于 2015-4-26 09:58:29 | 显示全部楼层
請問兼顧兩者 怎樣搭配?

如果偏好Wes Montgomery的音色 怎麼選擇?

感謝!
发表于 2015-9-5 01:17:51 | 显示全部楼层
挖个坟,请教下版主,主弹JAZZ的话,Roland Cube 40GX可以吗,首贴里推荐的Cube 60现在貌似很难买到了
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