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USD1000-1500的练习吉他哪种最好?

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The best choice for USD $1000-1500?
http://www.delcamp.net/forum/en/viewtopic.php?t=4867

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Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 7:54 pm    Post subject: The best choice for USD $1000-1500?   

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What's the recommendation for a classical guitar with the price of USD $1000-1500? I know that the handmade YAMAHA GC31 is in this range but someone told me that the sound of most of YAMAHA guitars cannot creat enough sound - compared with the other brands. Is that true?

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Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 8:02 pm    Post subject:   

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For that price I would recommend the Ramirez R1 or the Contreras C4.

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Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 8:08 pm    Post subject: Are they handmade?   

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Are they hand-made? Do they belong to regular concert guitar or academical guitar(for practise)?

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Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 8:44 am    Post subject: there are all handmade guitar   

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So the sound of Ramirez R1 or the Contreras C4 is bigger than YAMAHA GC31?

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Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 12:47 pm    Post subject:   

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My Esteve 8 is in that range. I've never played a Yamaha. When I bought my guitar, I compared to some Antonio Loriente and Kenny Hill New World models.

Where you are and what's available to try is a big determinant. I wasn't into the whole trial period, cross ship internet thing. I think there can be a range of qualities in the same guitar line at this level, so it would be important for me to try a number of them out.

The Esteve 8 is factory made in Spain, is solid woods, has very good finish and is an attractive instrument. The Antonio Loriente's from GSI are also quite good.

See if you can find a shop where you can try out a number of guitars in your range. A small shop will have gone to the trouble to setup the instrument properly too. Plus, they might have used instruments that are a big value.

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Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 5:38 pm    Post subject:   

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You should try as many guitars as possible and then decide.

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Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 6:12 pm    Post subject:   

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for that price you could probably get a luthier-made one

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Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 7:07 pm    Post subject:   

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The biggest instrument shop in town is Tom Lee Music, and the most expensive guitar on the shelf is a Flamenco (cannot remember the name, seems like a hand-made) at the price of $999(CAN). Its sound is better, but not MUCH better than YAMAHA C40($139).

I hesitate to consider Ramirez because I want invest the limited money on the sound quality instead of the brand name itself. Although famous brand usually provides better quality, I prefer to find a brand which is not very famous but provides good sound quality.

Did any one hear about Smallman guitar with a new structure?

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Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 2:52 am    Post subject:   

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I don't think Yamaha is a good choice in this price range. The material they used is not good though it looks good. Additionally they are produced in the South Asia factory.

I recommend Hanika 56PF/PC in this price (about 1500$), they worked well and sounds balance.
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Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 3:50 am    Post subject:   

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You may want to look at a Cashimira. I think Ken Powell has one for sale on eBay for about $1250. I have a Cashimira and really like mine -- it is a well made, fine sounding guitar.

I'm not recommending any specific maker or guitar, only suggesting you may want to look at these as well as others.
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Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 4:28 am    Post subject:   

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And then there's always the Cordoba Pro-R. Hand "crafted" (although some ads say hand "made") in Spain. Solid Spruce top, Solid Indian Rosewood back & sides, Cedar neck with Ebony inlay, Ebony fretboard. Really nice guitar! BUT, it's what sounds good to you that matters, so try as many brands & models of those brands that are within your budget until you find what you're looking for. It's really a personal choice.
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Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 5:12 am    Post subject:   

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Cyberninja.
I've heard Smallman guitars and they are superb instruments, but they are also very expensive - many times the amount you mention. I'd love one too, but until I become rich I'll have to just forget about it. You may want to look at the website of German luthier Dieter Hopf. I have one of his hand-made guitars that is in the price range you mention - good value for money with his guitars.
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Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 7:36 pm    Post subject: Thanks for the info.   

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You guys provide lots of useful suggestion and I will do some more research.

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Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 11:05 pm    Post subject:   

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Have you been to Long and McQuade?
Last time I was there they had the Almansa 457 and 459 in that price range, and seemed like nice guitars for the price.

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Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 4:53 am    Post subject:   

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I saw somebody earlier in this forum recomend a cashmira. I also own a cashmira and LOVE it. I would recomend looking into it. I also bought mine from ken powell on ebay.

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Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 11:00 pm    Post subject: I tried Rodrigues Guitar in Tom Lee   

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I tried Rodrigues Guitar in Tom Lee. The label price is CAN $999 and the actual price is around $750. The sound is sweet (probably made from cedar instead of spruce?) and warm (not sure if it is hand-made). I am not sure how good a Rodrigues iwill be for the models around $1000-$2000.

The highest priority for me to choose a guitar is the volume of its sound. Since all sample guitars in Tom Lee are below $1000, I did not try any higher model.

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Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 4:57 am    Post subject:   

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This looks interesting:http://www.classicalguitarra.com/guitars.html#Classical

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Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 2:11 pm    Post subject:   

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anyone ever order from classical guitarra? Any experience with their guitars?

I have a Pavan TP-30 and it's pretty good, but I was looking for something with a spruce top. The TP-30 is good, but I did notice a little string buzzing by the 10th fret on the low e string  I already returned one.
发表于 2006-3-28 10:00:29 | 显示全部楼层
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the guitars cost USD1000-1500 should be called "练习吉他"??? faint! You'd better change your nickname to "billionaireninja"
发表于 2006-3-28 10:03:34 | 显示全部楼层
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高档次的吉他, 一般来说, 大概不能说好与不好, 而是风格的不同. 看你喜欢什么风格的琴了...

象SMALLMAN这样的十五万RMB的琴, 很多人并不喜欢她的声音.

所以, 要买适合自己的, 买自己喜欢的.
发表于 2006-3-28 10:13:10 | 显示全部楼层
买琴买鼓,就找魔菇
不好意思USD是US DOLLAR吧 ...............
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 楼主| 发表于 2006-3-28 13:25:22 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 keen 于 2006-3-28 10:00 发表
the guitars cost USD1000-1500 should be called "练习吉他"??? faint! You'd better change your nickname to "billionaireninja"

No - I don't have one - my guitar is USD 100 YAMAHA C40.
USD1500 Ramirez R1 is the low end student guitar. R2/R3/R4 are all student guitars. R2 is around USD2000
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原帖由 cyberninja 于 2006-3-28 13:25 发表


USD1500 Ramirez R1 is the low end student guitar. R2/R3/R4 are all student guitars. R2 is around USD2000


It could be concert guitars in China.:D

so expensiv:Q
发表于 2006-3-28 14:03:50 | 显示全部楼层
呵呵, 学生琴这个概念...

人家那是美国啊....如是拿美国的标准, 咱北京大多数人都在贫困线以下, 都是要吃社会救济的.

咱开个帕萨特就可以装大款了, 在美国...
 楼主| 发表于 2006-3-28 15:32:41 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 keen 于 2006-3-28 14:00 发表
It could be concert guitars in China.:D
so expensiv:Q

YAMAHA就会做生意, 几百美元的CG就称为音乐会琴(工厂琴)
USD1500 - USDX000的称为GC(大音乐会琴), 是craftsman shop做的, 其实也不一定是hand-made, 实际上是hand-craft, 就是手工选板做板, 机器拼装,
再贵的也是GC, 是custom-shop做的,比如GC70, 是真正的手工琴(hand-made)订货至少6个月, 价格都在几万美元以上, 有不同的体系, 包括Segovia亲自指导的仿Ramirez系列.

名气最大(不一定最好)的当然是Ramirez, Segovia的吉他复兴少不了Ramirez, Segovia开大师班一般不用自己的琴,多办会向其他学生或助手借一把Ramirez, 最低的学生琴R1也要USD1500, 在Ramirez系列中, 相当于YAMAHA的练习琴C40.
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