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Fender 2009 Road Worn !!!怎样啊??

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发表于 2009-2-24 14:03:55 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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http://www.fender.com/roadworn/

号称是平民的relic。有没有用过的呢?说说怎样啊,看图片太让我这个les paul B心动了。

[ 本帖最后由 竞霄 于 2009-2-24 15:24 编辑 ]
发表于 2009-2-24 14:07:05 | 显示全部楼层
吉他中国抖音
我也很动心
发表于 2009-2-24 14:07:26 | 显示全部楼层
GC视频号
顶你这个LES PAUL B
发表于 2009-2-24 14:30:51 | 显示全部楼层

Cool!

买琴买鼓,就找魔菇
发表于 2009-2-24 15:09:24 | 显示全部楼层
价格让我不动心 而且配置有点奇怪
发表于 2009-2-24 15:13:03 | 显示全部楼层
绝对不便宜 估计跟美国豪华差不多钱

“好称是美国平民的relic”才对
发表于 2009-2-24 15:30:09 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 stevie630 于 2009-2-24 15:13 发表
绝对不便宜 估计跟美国豪华差不多钱

“好称是美国平民的relic”才对


没那么离谱的 差不多美标的价格好象


这个relic感觉太刻意 不怎么自然
发表于 2009-2-24 15:31:32 | 显示全部楼层
1000美金左右 不知道到了国内 价格如何
发表于 2009-2-24 15:37:11 | 显示全部楼层
竟然是013
发表于 2009-2-24 15:53:44 | 显示全部楼层
贵。。。。。。。。。
 楼主| 发表于 2009-2-24 15:57:11 | 显示全部楼层
哦?
发表于 2009-2-24 16:14:59 | 显示全部楼层
FENDER 2009年力推的一个系列~~~基于墨芬的CLASSIC系列,硝基漆面,TEX-MEX拾音器
发表于 2009-2-24 16:18:18 | 显示全部楼层
我记得比美标还要便宜一些呢。
看上去是挺不错的,不知道世纪的声音如何。
发表于 2009-2-24 16:19:37 | 显示全部楼层
墨西哥产的啊???
发表于 2009-2-24 17:47:13 | 显示全部楼层
为了对抗nash?
发表于 2009-2-24 17:55:55 | 显示全部楼层
我喜欢那个alder的tele
墨西哥也没事儿
来一个把
发表于 2009-2-24 18:06:06 | 显示全部楼层
楼上各位都找我买一只美标,我帮各位RELIC了 ,哈哈哈哈
发表于 2009-2-24 19:23:32 | 显示全部楼层
发表于 2009-2-24 19:29:38 | 显示全部楼层
我觉得哈。各位同志好好照料自己的琴,弹个10年20年让它变成真正的reic不是更好吗,干吗要追求这个充满嘘头的roadworn呢
发表于 2009-2-24 20:03:35 | 显示全部楼层
售价949美金   比美标便宜一些    觉得看上去不错啊    呵呵   好像youtube有视听吧
发表于 2009-2-24 20:14:04 | 显示全部楼层
东西很不错,价格也合适
发表于 2009-2-24 23:24:16 | 显示全部楼层
没必要吧...这个价位的琴就为了有点公路巡演感觉而去relic....
发表于 2009-2-25 00:31:03 | 显示全部楼层
我觉得还是非常值得考虑的,因为前两年推出的墨西哥Classic Player系列一直被国外的fans们追捧的一塌糊涂,都认同这个型号的音色已经非常非常的接近Custom shop的Time Machine系列了。只是也许因为国内文化差异吧,大多乐手只是比较追捧Deluxe和一些标准型号的美芬型号,被世界津津乐道的Classic Player系列在国内基本上没有人卖也没有人提及。其实这次Road Worn的推出就是源于对先前Classic Player成功的一次趁胜追击。并且对传统的复制和沧桑的relic本来就是fender品牌文化中最重要的一部分。这次的Road Worn配置方面除了外观的relic以外都跟Classic Player系列大同小异,所以我觉得一定会不错。
发表于 2009-2-25 00:40:53 | 显示全部楼层
不错,不过墨西哥产也要8000多的话就值得考虑了
发表于 2009-2-25 00:48:48 | 显示全部楼层
看上去很美~
发表于 2009-2-25 00:49:59 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 fusion_gt 于 2009-2-24 18:06 发表
楼上各位都找我买一只美标,我帮各位RELIC了 ,哈哈哈哈

商量下怎么RELIC我那只~
发表于 2009-2-25 01:50:55 | 显示全部楼层
发表于 2009-2-25 05:00:37 | 显示全部楼层
RELIC是很费手工的,也就是说两把一样品质的琴,RELIC的那把一定比不RELIC的要更贵。

如果这个系列真的比同价格的美标音色明显好一块,同时样子又做成RELIC,那么FENDER为什么还要继续生产美标?谁买?不排除个体差异带来的偶尔惊喜,但要总体来说,同一个品牌里面,不太会存在便宜的型号比贵的更好的普遍情况出现的。

大家算一下帐,就清楚了,如果这个琴赶上了USA VINTAGE系列,那么就会导致原本要买VINTAGE系列的人都改买Road Worn 系列,那么整个的销售总额就要下降,要是赶上了CUSTOM SHOP,呵呵,那么FENDER的销售总收入就减少更多了,有哪个公司的老总愿意看到公司销售额下降的?因此Road Worn 系列的推出,不是为了去抢占FENDER原本就有的市场份额的,而是要加强他们在这个档次上产品线的实力,从而获得更多的销售额。

只有买错,没有卖错的,相信象FENDER这样的大公司推出新产品一定是做过严格调查和预测的,也相信这个系列产品的定价肯定是会对得起琴本身品质的,甚至也可能略有超值,但是想要YY这个系列可以取代CUSTOM SHOP,呵呵,那真的是YY而已。如果有一天法力达说出了这样的产品,可以让你花一半的钱,甚至是1/3的钱买到如此超值的产品,倒反而更可信一点,因为新的品牌想要崛起,是有可能不计较利润来推广品牌知名度的。

[ 本帖最后由 琴 于 2009-2-25 05:05 编辑 ]
发表于 2009-2-25 06:21:00 | 显示全部楼层
顶琴童的话。 英国GUITARIST杂志也出了测评。看起来很美,很COOL,很VINTAGE, 60'S 比 50‘S 看起来更真实

但REILC和音色还是有区别的,应该说墨F的超值性价比还是一样的,只不过,满足了买不起CUSTOM SHOP RELIC的玩家。仅此而已了
发表于 2009-2-25 06:46:38 | 显示全部楼层
http://guitars.musiciansfriend.c ... c-Guitar?sku=526796

这个琴恐怕是墨西哥量产的里面最贵的了?为什么做旧了还能便宜?大概是因为墨西哥工厂的成本相对比较低,而且连个硬琴箱子都没有,美标至少还有个硬箱子吧。你看他的配置,tex-mex真的不是什么好拾音器,是custom shop texas special的低端版,我和原版比较过,差太多了,输出比一般的稍大,但是绝对不是vintage fender 的那种清亮而甜的声音(事实上,texas special也不是传统fender 的声音, 而是更劲爆一些,有些人觉得根本没有清音)。tex-mex的动感非常差,听起来象死了一样,对手指和拨片的变化非常迟钝。
发表于 2009-2-25 07:02:36 | 显示全部楼层
楼上说的话从这个视听里就可以验证   

原帖由 linweifengrock 于 2009-2-25 01:50 发表
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4b8wygzHbE
发表于 2009-2-25 08:58:17 | 显示全部楼层
self relic很难出那个效果的,fender做这个relic真是一绝,而且即使相同型号每把琴,经过relic了,也都不一样,世界上没有两把完全相同的relic fender,这就是魅力所在
另外,fret work一直是fender的一个软肋,即使是高端的time machine系列,fret处理的也经常很不好,如果这个新出的系列能在这个问题上严谨一些,我想这个系列会取得成功

[ 本帖最后由 swayed 于 2009-2-25 09:02 编辑 ]
发表于 2009-2-25 09:00:02 | 显示全部楼层
看看国外网友试用roadworn的测评:

Played 3 New Road Worns tonight at Cintioli's in Philly.  Its a hit!

Amps used: Marshall 18watt handwired with matching 2061x cab
Fender Super Sonic 112 Combo
Fender Texas Red Blues Jr Combo

Guitars Compared with
58' Masterbuilt strat
69' Custom shop strat
50's Custom shop tele

Black 50's Strat, Medium V Shaped maple neck, exceptional fretwork, medium sized frets, well crowned and level. Overall feel was great, action was very decent for an out of the box guitar. Started off playing into a Marshall 18watt handwired with the matching 2x12 cab,nothing but shimmering tone in all 5 pickup positions. The neck pickup produced a nice beefy sound but remaind spanky and responsive , position 2 \| which most lower priced strats seem to really fail at was great on the Roadworn.. After about 20 minutes of the marshall it was time to try the highgain setup so I plugged into a Fender Supersonic 1x12 combo, the stock pickups really have me shocked, aside from having every nuance of classic strat sound the attack dynamics were solid as a rock, tone controls were a bit usless, I would have gone with a different pot maybe, seemed to be either on or off with not too much inbetween, The nut needed some fine tweaking but other then that, the 50's strat for $600 is a total bargin, its a contender with relics triple the price, has the look & Feel down.

60's Strat in 3 tone sunburst- My favorite out of the 3-
Neck shape was a perfect 60's Medium/Fat C Similar to the new Eric Johnson strat., Fretwork was the best out of the 3 roadworns, nut didn't need any tweaking either. Tonally
Bridge is hot and punchy, Mid pos wasn't as good as the 50's but the half positions made up the difference, by far the best sound was the neck pickup into a Blues Jr with some extra reverb, Did an A/B Comparison against a masterbuilt 58' strat- Was pretty tough to accept the $600 strat sounding just as good as the $5000 strat. Finish on the neck was exellent, all though it was relic'd it played easy and the relicing didnt get in the way. Also Compared against a 69' relic it held its ground, the 69' Tremolo felt a tad better and it was setup just a hair better on the action/intonation side.

50's Tele 3 tone burst- BIG BIG Neck, Its a club, Massive C shape, think 58' Les paul big. Big frets, Chikin pickin was real easy, again with the amazement that a mexican fender didn't need a setup out of the box, good fretwork. Tuners weren't holding at first but snugged up after a while. Sounded best into the Super sonic with some verb, but for rythm- plugged into the 18watt marshall it had that classic bite and punch.. Pickups again- solid- Bridge Position rocked great and the neck/bridge at once had a good response to pick attack. Compared against another relic tele, Triple the price and the Road worn was just as nice. Compared against a 50's custom shop tele, Sound was completely different, Feel was about the same, quality of build was almost par with the CS Relic- the biggest difference was the extent of relicing, CS tele was beat a bit too much..

Conclusion: Fender really has stepped up on the quality side, most of the mexican fenders over the last decade have been either really GOOD or really bad, Fender finally has their equasion nailed!! Go check these out! totally outragous. Keep in mind these are Relic'd to a certain extent, its not like some of the heavy relics, they tastefully did these, they're not overdone in anyway.. No hard cases but heck for the money I don't think it can be beat..
发表于 2009-2-25 09:15:51 | 显示全部楼层
另外一点很重要的是,一定要配好箱子。
虽然没用过这琴,我坚信只要接上一个差不多的all tube amp,把音量开大,得到的音色能令我满意
发表于 2009-2-25 09:18:55 | 显示全部楼层
从一些实物照片上看,内部外部工艺水平很过关,但是在琴颈的处理特别是maple指板的处理上,比time machine草率许多,感觉的漆面大片的剥落而不是手指按时间长的那种自然的磨损
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发表于 2009-2-25 09:23:07 | 显示全部楼层
用小刀“咯嚓”出来的。
发表于 2009-2-25 09:23:08 | 显示全部楼层
非常适合做为演出琴,在台上应该很拉风
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-2-25 11:12:04 | 显示全部楼层
看起来应该比较适合我这个伪发烧者。
发表于 2009-2-25 11:31:02 | 显示全部楼层
我觉得吧,你见过实物可能就不想买了。。。。。

我在伦敦这边已经见过60'S了,还是比较真的。但也是感觉很草率,没有他标榜的那么好

RELIC真的很一般,虽说世上的RELIC没有完全相同的,但是这个系列的差距真的很小很小

尤其是50'S,你看了绝对皱眉头,搞不懂他搞这个为了什么
发表于 2009-2-25 11:31:50 | 显示全部楼层
量产RELIC避免不了的问题~~~
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